ha i new in here satellit 10 ft up and almost running i hav a z5 openbox recevier for now that came with my system and i need up to date firmware but afraid to use what i have seen out their dont want to kill my box and trying to find all sat that i can get for my z5 when i get the money together will buy a better top on the line receiver from rick like and icecrypte 6500 but for know what to be able to injoy what out their and a big thank to mike for helping me with this so far on getting in stalled i know i have to relearn i have so much going on right know that take my time in the day and i night like to unwined with and injoy my big dish