I Wish FTA Would Die!!! (1 Viewer)

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rv1pop

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Security can be built in to any machine fairly cheap ... It is called "Spread Spectrum". No, I can not explain it, but it works.... You can have millions of seeds in a chip and randomly choose (transmit) the one you want for the next x cycles and if hack does not have the codes, he gets nothing - and the chips do not duplicate on a copier.... and can be updated by cellular phone data - Customer does not subscribe, provider does! More than one reponse from serial (phone) number -- Cancel service on that number!
 
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uncleharvy

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If you don't like way that dumb site, as you say, fleaBay works, just stay away from it!! Leave selling up to good new stuff and help the web clean itself up.
 

RVD420

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I love my hackproof Traxis 3500. You would have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

I don't want to see FTA go away. I want to see providers to use good security. Why should someone like myself, who enjoys true FTA be punished by seeing FTA die.
 

Bo-Dae

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I'm new to this whole FTA thing. What's the difference between real FTA and the hackers? I talked to a guy today about buying a system that will allow me to get all the satellite channels for a one time fee. He said it's legal. How can I tell what is and what is not legal?
 

Buzzdar

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I remember the days when you couldn't even give away a FTA receiver, and I had a few hundred Primestar dishes to get rid of that nobody wanted!

I really wish the FTA piracy would go away, because its not only hurting my own business but the entire industry.

However if I had a choice between FTA going away completely, or not going away at all (Illegal) I would get rid of it completely (Illegal and Legal) than to continue to put up with the piracy!

LOL i wish i could find a free primestar dish cant find one.
 

Wescopc

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I'm new to this whole FTA thing. What's the difference between real FTA and the hackers? I talked to a guy today about buying a system that will allow me to get all the satellite channels for a one time fee. He said it's legal. How can I tell what is and what is not legal?
If "by all of the channels", he is talking about sports, HBO - those channels that you would see on Cable or Dish Network Satellite, then it is not legal FTA. Those channels require monthly payments or pay per view.

Look at FTAList.com - The easy list of North American free-to-air TV channels or "The List" at the top of this page. The sites listed in those two places are legal.
Bob
 

Pepper

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Not really, but if finally getting rid of the illegal ment getting rid of the legal also I would support it.
I assume that you also support:
- closing the roads because some people drive illegally
- shutting down the Internet because some people use it to view child porn and send fraud spam
- getting rid of insurance because some people submit fraudulent claims
 

Tron

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I'm new to this whole FTA thing. What's the difference between real FTA and the hackers? I talked to a guy today about buying a system that will allow me to get all the satellite channels for a one time fee. He said it's legal. How can I tell what is and what is not legal?

In a sentence, if a signal is encrypted and you are using a receiver that has been modified to decrypt that signal to view it, it is a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

FTA receivers with factory firmware (from the manufacturer) will not decrypt encrypted channels. FTA channels are channels on satellites which are in the clear (unencrypted). 99.9 percent of Dish Network is encrypted.
 

truckracer

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E* is too cheap to secure their signal. They probably have hired the "shakey people" to sell the files. The KNOW how to secure a signal and choose NOT to. I have always thought it was a conspiracy on their part.

I am tired of people thinking that my free to air is what "fleabay sells"...

I always set the record straight when the subject arises.

Somewhere on the the forum I read where one of the members stated that E*makes FTA boxes in Europe. I bet if some in depth investigation went into it-old "you know who" is just screwing the program providers making money from the hacking.
 

Bo-Dae

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Feb 22, 2008
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Is Neosat a legitimate FTA company? It was one of their receivers that the guy was trying to sell me.
 

Tron

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Never heard of Neosat, doesn't mean they aren't legit though. EDIT: Looks legit, similar to the Visionsat... Neosat USA

Even if the box is made by a well-known, reputable company (such as Pansat, Coolsat, Fortec, Visionsat, etc.), it might have illegal third-party firmware loaded onto it by that dealer.

Bottom line, if he claims it gets "all channels" (HBO, Discovery, ESPN, etc.) out of the box, the receiver as he is selling it (pre-loaded with hacked firmware) is illegal.
 

truckracer

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You can check the software version by looking in the menu under "information" or "system" info. It will tell you the version and release date usually. IF you see anything other than factory firmware, download the factory firmware and replace the bootleg stuff with the legitimate software.
 

tdti1

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Nov 23, 2004
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Well we will see, I'm sure Nagra wants to try to get some lost respect back in the industry, DTV was successful with there last swap using there own encryption we will see what happens to Dish and Bell once again using Nagra.
 

Sadoun

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Feb 27, 2005
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FTA channels are important to millions of viewers who rely on Galaxy 25 (97W) for their Ethnic programming or AMC4 (101W) for their Religious programming. Most of these channels are not available through subscription service and only available FTA.

First Timers who want to learn about what system to buy for their FTA needs can click on the "FIRST-TIMERS" button our Sadoun website (Top RH corner of the page). And they should read the Frequently Asked Questions section.

People who want to watch the regular American channels or some Ethnic channels not available on FTA, should NOT consider an FTA system. Both DirecTV and Dish Network have great packages at reasonable prices that you can subscribe to. DN also has a DISHNow Prepaid System that allows you to order channels without having to sign up for long term commitment or use a credit card.
 

GreatFTA

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True FTA People are very special and like no other , call me an FTA nerd if you like but I'm proud to belong to an elite group of non hackers who enjoy pure True FTA.
Amen! I second that!!!
 
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