If Dish drops AMC, will you drop dish??

If Dish drops AMC, will you drop dish??

  • Yes - Definitely!!!

    Votes: 104 21.5%
  • No - Will use another source for content / downgrade package.

    Votes: 322 66.7%
  • Maybe - just not sure

    Votes: 57 11.8%

  • Total voters
    483

GaryPen

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Goes to show that no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
I'm not sure I understand the point of your reply.

Certainly, the original programming on AMC (Mad Men, The Killing, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc) is more intelligent than that of TV Land (Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, etc), SyFy (Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus), MTV (wall to wall retards), and even much of Comedy Central (other than Daily Show or Colbert), and Animal Planet (mostly stupid reality-type shows now).

There are only a handful of non-premium cable channels offering quality, intelligent programming. And, AMC is easily among that group.
 

Teehar

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It has not, and I'll bet won't happen.

I hope your right Kab.I don't have as positive an outlook simply because of the way Charlie came out with guns a blazing.

As far as making a switch it's not such an easy decision to make.It's a great big hassle for most and an even harder choice when you prefer the company your with.
 

mdonnelly

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I'm not sure I understand the point of your reply.

Certainly, the original programming on AMC (Mad Men, The Killing, Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, etc) is more intelligent than that of TV Land (Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, etc), SyFy (Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus), MTV (wall to wall retards), and even much of Comedy Central (other than Daily Show or Colbert), and Animal Planet (mostly stupid reality-type shows now).

There are only a handful of non-premium cable channels offering quality, intelligent programming. And, AMC is easily among that group.
Only that scientific programs shown on NatGeo, Discovery, etc. are generally more intelligent than zombie dramas. Having said that, there are plenty of dumbed down shows on NatGeo and the other so-called scientific networks too. Again, programming to the taste of the masses.
 

DodgerKing

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I don't have Dish so I cannot vote; but if I did AMC would not be enough for me to switch providers as I do not watch any of the AMC channels that are threatened to be removed.
 

TNGTony

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For a totally objective poll, the choices should be 1) Yes, 2) No 3) Not sure with no qualifiers or addendum. Otherwise the choices are biased by the commentary. For example, "Yes, definitely" implies that the person asking the question is pushing this answer, especially since there is no direct opposite choice such as "No, definitely". The no in this questionnaire is conditional and that condition points to the questioner's preference for the "yes" answer as there are, as you mentioned, dozens of reasons to say no. Downgrading package or watching programming via other media is irrelevant to many so this no answer is incomplete making people not answer or answer something else.

This is one of the ways polls are skewed to get an answer they want. Question and responses wording is critical to getting an objective answer. This is why whenever I see a headline about a poll result I insist of looking at the wording of the questions and responses before I give the headline any weight.

Even with that, 2/3 of respondents have voted for the biased conditional no so there is your answer.
 

GaryPen

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Only that scientific programs shown on NatGeo, Discovery, etc. are generally more intelligent than zombie dramas. Having said that, there are plenty of dumbed down shows on NatGeo and the other so-called scientific networks too. Again, programming to the taste of the masses.
"Plenty" is an understatement. There is more dumb crap than quality, intelligent, programming on any of the science/learning channels. If you remove all of the reality programming, all of the shows about blowing stuff up, flinging stuff, families with too many kids, or diving in sewage, there is very little left on those networks.

So, "generally" those channels are no more intelligent than a zombie drama. But, Walking Dead is only one of AMC's original series, the majority of which receive the type of critical acclaim generally reserved for quality fare. AMC is definitely not in the "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American viewer" camp.
 

KAB

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They also make big money with Mad Men. It ain't just ad dollars, you know.
You'll need to show me that's true. It's ratings are just Ho-Hum, and they cut WD's budget to compensate for it's disproportional cost. There was a lot of furor last year from the WD camp.
 

empiretc

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For a totally objective poll, the choices should be 1) Yes, 2) No 3) Not sure with no qualifiers or addendum. Otherwise the choices are biased by the commentary. For example, "Yes, definitely" implies that the person asking the question is pushing this answer, especially since there is no direct opposite choice such as "No, definitely". The no in this questionnaire is conditional and that condition points to the questioner's preference for the "yes" answer as there are, as you mentioned, dozens of reasons to say no. Downgrading package or watching programming via other media is irrelevant to many so this no answer is incomplete making people not answer or answer something else.

This is one of the ways polls are skewed to get an answer they want. Question and responses wording is critical to getting an objective answer. This is why whenever I see a headline about a poll result I insist of looking at the wording of the questions and responses before I give the headline any weight.

Even with that, 2/3 of respondents have voted for the biased conditional no so there is your answer.

Yep, that became painfully obvious and has been pointed out several times. This is not scientific and maybe we can get a mod to change it (or shut it down) since people cannot seem to contain their condescending commentary.

That, and we don't need to cause any more praying over a BS poll. Even so, the votes pretty much show what was expected.
 

BassBlaster

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Funny thing, it is going the way dish is thinking. Most won't really care, lol.

Based on this poll, 30% of the customers will definitely or potentially consider terminating their service. At 14 million current subscribers that's roughly 4.2 million subscribers who would consider leaving E*. This number should certainly be cause for concern. The only channels most people really care about are ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN/2 and their local sports network. Everything else is a niche channel.
 

GaryPen

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You'll need to show me that's true. It's ratings are just Ho-Hum, and they cut WD's budget to compensate for it's disproportional cost. There was a lot of furor last year from the WD camp.

I know they made a nice chunk of change with Mad Men from Netflix.
Plus DVD's/Blu-Rays. Plus Amazon On Demand for current episodes. (I had to buy an ep the other night when the Hopper f-ed up, and didn't start recording it until half way into the episode.) Plus syndication. Plus international.

Most broadcast network shows don't make a profit, or much profit, during their initial network run. The real money is made in syndication, DVD/BD, streaming, International, and brand licensing. That is why Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were willing to pay the Seinfeld cast astronomical amounts upfront, but keep the back end for themselves and the studio/network. (Of course, the actors get residuals according to union agreement. But, it pales in comparison to actually owning a piece of the show.)
 

osu1991

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GaryPen said:
Plus DVD's/Blu-Rays. Plus Amazon On Demand for current episodes. (I had to buy an ep the other night when the Hopper f-ed up, and didn't start recording it until half way into the episode.) Plus syndication. Plus international.

Most broadcast network shows don't make a profit, or much profit, during their initial network run. The real money is made in syndication, DVD/BD, streaming, International, and brand licensing. That is why Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld were willing to pay the Seinfeld cast astronomical amounts upfront, but keep the back end for themselves and the studio/network. (Of course, the actors get residuals according to union agreement. But, it pales in comparison to actually owning a piece of the show.)

That's how they pay these so called A list actors 15 million plus a season. The DVD sales, streaming and syndication rights are huge.

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Slamminc11

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Based on this poll, 30% of the customers will definitely or potentially consider terminating their service. At 14 million current subscribers that's roughly 4.2 million subscribers who would consider leaving E*. This number should certainly be cause for concern. The only channels most people really care about are ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN/2 and their local sports network. Everything else is a niche channel.

so you really think that this poll on this site is a real correlation to the actual views of the dish population!?!?
 

dare2be

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so you really think that this poll on this site is a real correlation to the actual views of the dish population!?!?
I was going to say that people on this site are more apt to switch due to being more informed about their options, but then on the flipside, being more informed about the competitors would also preclude others from switching in the first place. But no, the poll itself is not scientific enough for any kind of meaningful correlation, and it never was intended to be.
 

KazooGuy

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NO! I have no interest in AMC programming. I believe AMC needs Dish Network subscribers to a great extent than Dish Network subscribers desire AMC programming…
 

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