Just how good is DiSH international programming?

Roseph

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The DiSH programming says "100% digital quality", and I'm not sure if they're as ugly as the 240x320 resolution international programming like on DirecTV, which I'm completely unsatisfied with. DirecTV says nothing about digital quality in their international programming lineup.

Anyone have the Great Wall TV package or something similar?
 
International packages have conversion issues to NTSC, so the picture quality is not always that great. Some day these will be transmitted in High Def and then these issues should go away. I have the South Asian Mega Pack, and I find that the picture quality on some channels is inferior to other SD channels, but comparable in other cases. Compression on the source is another issue that DISH cannot control.

-Hemant
 
The standards conversion is no longer and issue and hasn't been for many years now as this has been handled digitally for many years now and is very affordable. It's not the 1970's anymore and hasn't been for nearly 4 decades. The conversion to NTSC will look as good as the original format, provided the original was a good source to begin with.

Some internationals take advantage of the fiber optics to get some services or programming here, and it can look good.

To really answer your question, however, is that Dish is not providing these internationals as good as they can appear because Dish is cramming them all on the 118 FSS Ku satellite along with some LIL. The PQ at 118 is blurry, while the same channels looked very good at the wings of 148 and 61.5. The irony is Dish (or Echostar) is the entity that does provide the services to bring in a number of these international channels using fiber optics and high quality standards. Then Dish blurrs them so bad to fit them onto the 118. The internationals that have high broadcast standards such as NHK, TV5, all look pretty bad on Dish because they look so blurry.

When it is the channel's fault for poor PQ, the biggest factor to international PQ quality is the lack of high standards for what they air. In other words, the channel itself will be in good quality all the way through to Dish and somewhat blurry after Dish compresses it, but the channel will air some of the worst prints of movies poorly tele-cined with horrible color and lots of damage apparent or they will are video that, again, was very poorly produced with lots of noise and impairments. The PQ is only going to be as good as the channel's technical standards for "air" or "broadcast" quality content that it airs.

Think of the smallest local channels in your city or the smallest PBS station in your city compared to the biggest. They had a pretty good signal and could produce very good quality PQ in that there was nothing wrong with what the FCC allocated to them to broadcast on. The problem was that those little channels aired content that was in crap condition and produced shows in video with inferior equipment that caused noise and the video tape used for production was damaged, too, often because of no money or the lack of will to spend it. That's the international PQ situation.
 
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French TV5

French channel TV5 is fine for a SD channel, however they use some horrible surround sound or noise reduction system that causes intermittent sound artifacts on the surround channels, like if the entire sound field would become out of phase for a few seconds every time the sound level drops to background noise.
 
"Digital Quality" is one of those terms that should be outlawed as inherently deceptive. It means absolutely nothing. One giant pixel covering the entire viewing area switching from black to white every 3 seconds is "digital quality".

Some of the channels on the Spanish package are funky, but it's from the source. Most look at least as good as any English language SD channel. One Spanish movie channels looks like crap mostly because they over compress very bad prints with lots of scratches and really, really bad sound.

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Tony
 

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