Level and Quality

[Vestal]

I finally got a chance to try to point my 36" dish from my Sadoun M-2 package.

After an hour of slow movements I have a signal level of 88-89% and a signal quality of 29-30%.

I am pointing at 82W (Nimiq4) TP12224V 2000. This is listed as a strong transponder so should I work on getting a better signal quality or is this good enough.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Lak7]

To start, Nimiq, and Echostar Sats are not FTA Sats, but can be used to align to.
Are you setting up a Motorized Dish?

 

[cracklincrotch]

You can pretty much forget about the "S" level. That just means that your receiver is connected to the LNB at the other end of the cable. It's the Q/quality meter that counts.

If you're aimed at N4 and you have the proper circular LNB on your dish you should get much better quality than that. In fact you could probably get a Q of 100 on that sat with that size dish.

If you're aimed at N4 with a standard linear LNB for true FTA, that quality level is the most you could probably get, as the subscription services use circular signals, not linear.

 

[Vestal]

Hello Lak7,

Yes it is a motorized system and I have the circular section of the LNB hooked up.

82W is my truesouth sat.

Thanks

 

[Lak7]

Then you should be able to get more Quality.
I would think around Q70+, but all receivers are different.
If you can, bring the Receiver and TV to the Dish for fine tuning.
Put "pressure" on the Dish - Up, Down, Left, Right to see what makes an improvement.

 

[Vestal]

Thanks Lak7 and Cracklicrotch,

I have the receiver and small TV at the dish so I'll try some more fine tuning.

Take care

 

[Lak7]

Keep in mind that Nimiq and Echostar Sats are Much easier to hit vs. FTA Sats.
So you will probably have to re-tweak.

 

[cracklincrotch]

In fact, they're so easy to hit you could be way off the arc and still pick them up and not even know it.

 

[Vestal]

I tried a little pressure on each side of the dish and on the top and bottom of the dish.

There was no improvement in quality and if I went a little further quality would go to zero.

I'm not sure if I'm on the sat or not, I think in a strong wind it would push the dish enough to loose quality.

I am using a Fortec Dynamic receiver if you know how they will read on the quality %

Thanks

 

[Lak7]

Double check that you are connected to the "C" port on the LNB
What are the setting you have in the Receivers Setup Menu?
LNB Type
LNB L.O. / Freq

 

[Vestal]

Connected to the C port on the LNB, if the sticker is put on correctly.

LNB type 11250
LNB LOW 11250
LNB HIGH 11250

 

[gabshere]

the qph031 is heavy lnbf

you can make slight adjustments on the lnbf slide / move it forward to the dish & away from the dish ( i think i had the most luck all the way out away from the dish)

as mentioned above this lnbf is heavy you can also try to hold the dish and lift slightly on the lnbf or push down on the lnbf lightly to see if this makes and difference in your quality levels.

 

[Lak7]

Just to confirm you are on Nimiq4 @ 82, try this TP
12311
You should get a Bell Free Chanell

 

[Vestal]

TP 12311 44% Quality and I loose it if I push on the dish same as the other TP.

gabshere, I tried moving the LNB in and out and up and down with no improvment in quality,

 

[Lak7]

Did you scan the 12311 TP? It should be a Bell Channel.
There is a Echo Sat at 77west that you may be getting.

 

[Vestal]

No, I didn't scan the TP.

Had to stop working on it today. when I get back to it I will scan the TP.


Thanks for all the help. I'm sure there will be more questions.

 

[Vestal]

Well the snow we got Sunday melted, so I hooked everything up after work today and scanned the 12311 TP. I got 1 TV channel called CH-1 and 2 radio CH765, CH1200.

Quality is the same as before 40-50%

Am I on the right Sat.

Thanks
Charles

 

[Lak7]

Can you watch the channel?

 

[Lak7]

Just did an FTA scan on 82 west.
Try:
TP Freq 12326
Polarity Horz
Scan Rate: 20000
FEC 7/8

Should scan in as "VuHD"

 

[Vestal]

Hello again Lak7,

I did not try to watch the channel, newbie in me I guess, I did a TP scan and found a few TPs one was 12399 it had a few channels all scrambled some of the channels were ATN,CBC,SRC-E,EMTL,CTVTB

I'll try the 12326 TP after work tomorrow.