k, so, im wet behind the ears in comparison then. BUT: PROPER grounding "pipes" as you say, at apartment buildings and MDU's within a reasonable distance of a dish is not common IN MY EXPERIANCE.
but then again, im a former electrician and I know what a proper ground is and is not.
are you not supposed to be certifited to install ground rods?
anyway, we had this one tech that every job he grounded was a trouble call, every job he didnt ground worked fine, lol