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It is a good list, but I do see an error (mainly because the addition is new). Directv Now does have CBS Sports.
 

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Wish there was a list somewhere that showed which streaming channels allow you to use Dish/Direct/Cable credentials to stream. Like the “Watch ESPN” and “Watch Disney” apps
 
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Who streams MPEG2?

There are many competent streamers that do handle MPEG2. I fancy that Roku devices would be considerably more expensive if they had to support all the outdated formats.
Who streams MPEG2?

There are many competent streamers that do handle MPEG2. I fancy that Roku devices would be considerably more expensive if they had to support all the outdated formats.
Might be outdated but OTA still uses it. Besides they can also allow software decoding like the inexpensive fire stick
 

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If you "streaming" OTA from a tuner, you should probably consider using a transcoding media server like Plex. Of course then you can use tuners that are much less costly and can be upgraded without paying an arm and a leg when the next TV standard takes over.

With a media server you can also easily add other streaming channels and music that the Silicon Dust products don't have access to and you can do it all from one place.
 

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If you "streaming" OTA from a tuner, you should probably consider using a transcoding media server like Plex. Of course then you can use tuners that are much less costly and can be upgraded without paying an arm and a leg when the next TV standard takes over.

With a media server you can also easily add other streaming channels and music that the Silicon Dust products don't have access to and you can do it all from one place.

I was only using the HD Homerun tuner as an example of one limitation of the Roku. I personally use my HTPC's to stream from my HD Homerun; also there is an app for my cell phones.
 
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I was only using the HD Homerun tuner as an example of one limitation of the Roku
The "limitation" seems to be with using just a bare HD Homerun without a media server. In this day and age of multiple tuners, it seems like a tuner should provide the transcoding to limit the volume of network traffic on home LANs.

This article from a few years ago speaks to the "surprising" lack of support for MPEG2 among media rendering devices and what Silicon Dust planned to do about it:

SiliconDust announces two new HDHomeRun network tuners with transcoding, DLNA DMP beta firmware available soon
 

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:thumbup DVD movies, OTA, and my first camcorder.
How large a percentage of the population do you imagine are using these sources that don't have some method of transcoding in place? With DVDs you've almost certainly ripped them and can easily transcode them (good ripping tools offer transcoding as part of the ripping process).

Would you use your first camcorder as a streaming source? Do you use it at all?

I can come up with all sorts of historical examples but I was looking for practical modern examples of where you might encounter someone offering only MPEG2 content.

I'm not sure I've seen any of the useful CCTV systems that use MPEG2 for quite a while now. I have seen some that still use MJPEG but that's a cruel joke.
 

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Woops. Forgot my Hava Platinum, because that developed an analog video sync problem and is out of service at the moment. It too streams (or streamed :crying) MPEG-2 video. I think it had DTS sound as well, as did my handy-dandy camcorder.

I have a full complement of video tools to capture, edit, and move MPEG2 video all over the house and play anywhere I want. I hate to dump everything that I have that just works, and pay more $, so that I can keep up with "progress".
 

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The reason I went with a hdhomerun instead of a device like a Tablo is because I don't want to transcode. I guess its because of using dlna, but the picture is great and channel changes are instantaneous.
 
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harshness

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I hate to dump everything that I have that just works, and pay more $, so that I can keep up with "progress".
If only it just worked (or you didn't already have an alternative in place).

MPEG2 is dead for most purposes and converting what you do have in that format to another format can be done in large batches with little to no user intervention and no serious commitment to expensive hardware or software.
 

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The reason I went with a hdhomerun instead of a device like a Tablo is because I don't want to transcode.
And that's fine as long as you accept that there are sacrifices (and costs) involved and that it will only get worse as the rest of the World continues forward. Going with a real media server may have been more expensive up front (unless you had a suitable computer laying around) but buying non-modular solutions will get you on the back end.

Fortunately for you, I suspect that ATSC 3.0 is quite a few years away (although there will probably be more than a few DTV re-scans required to keep up with the repack and added/deleted channels).

For the other 99.9998% of the population that isn't swimming against the current, AVC support and later is just dandy.
 

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And that's fine as long as you accept that there are sacrifices (and costs) involved and that it will only get worse as the rest of the World continues forward. Going with a real media server may have been more expensive up front (unless you had a suitable computer laying around) but buying non-modular solutions will get you on the back end.

Fortunately for you, I suspect that ATSC 3.0 is quite a few years away (although there will probably be more than a few DTV re-scans required to keep up with the repack and added/deleted channels).

For the other 99.9998% of the population that isn't swimming against the current, AVC support and later is just dandy.

Most of the population doesn't know (and doesn't care) how well HD Homerun devices really work. Connect it to your router and boom, OTA on all devices (well, most devices). It's a solid and stable tuner. I understand that SiliconDust has been told by Roku that MPEG2 support isn't coming, ever. That's Ok. Heck, my Sony blu ray player can even see the HD Homerun's stream, so there are ways around it. It would just be *nice.* I don't record shows with it. I use my H3's OTA adapter for that. But if I want to see guide data for ALL OTA channels, not just the ones in Dish's guide, then HD Homerun works great.
 
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The question was how important MPEG2 support really is, not whether or not a use case could be found. I think that we can agree at least to the proposition that supporting the HD Homerun probably isn't sufficient reason to go to all that trouble and outside of that, there's not much MPEG2 that you can dig up that can't be simply transcoded to a format that is supported; likely with some space savings and with imperceptible quality loss. YouTube is doing pretty well operating on this model.
 

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