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lpiorkowski

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Jan 9, 2010
16
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south of the border
Post pictures of that antenna they're offering you, there where are a lot of informal companies copying antennas, as a matter of fact there was one in Mexico (can't remember the name of those guys) that copied from a company in US Idaho (formerly know as Andersen) the copies will never perform as well as the originals, so your original Channel Master (by the way one of he most copied antenas in the caribbean) could outperform a 2.4 copy......
 
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Rafaelccs

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Oct 17, 2008
247
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Fort Lauderdale
they told me today its not a Channel Master - so ill take your advise and skip.
the thing is that there are a lot of people receiving also DirecTV US in Mexico, all those dealers don't need to sweat so much because lucky for them Mexico is so close to the US that the levels are so high a poor performance antenna will do, I'm amazed of the amount of people selling, I just typed in google: antenas de mexico and it came up like 40 manufacturers, if they sell it and guarantee it then you pay, that could be a conditioned deal here are some:

Parabolicas
CP Electronics
100% Copy
110% Copy
Other Copy
Mayortec
Antenas de Jalisco

The classical US brands are:
General Dynamics (Formerly known as Prodelin).
DH Antennas
Skyware Global (Formerly known as Channel Master).

The thing is that the original US version is expensive because of the quality of the antenna......
you will know it's a copy when in deep fringe locations, that's the real test....
 

lpiorkowski

Active SatelliteGuys Member
Jan 9, 2010
16
2
south of the border
the thing is that there are a lot of people receiving also DirecTV US in Mexico, all those dealers don't need to sweat so much because lucky for them Mexico is so close to the US that the levels are so high a poor performance antenna will do, I'm amazed of the amount of people selling, I just typed in google: antenas de mexico and it came up like 40 manufacturers, if they sell it and guarantee it then you pay, that could be a conditioned deal here are some:

Parabolicas
CP Electronics
100% Copy
110% Copy
Other Copy
Mayortec
Antenas de Jalisco

The classical US brands are:
General Dynamics (Formerly known as Prodelin).
DH Antennas
Skyware Global (Formerly known as Channel Master).

The thing is that the original US version is expensive because of the quality of the antenna......
you will know it's a copy when in deep fringe locations, that's the real test....
i'm fringe - changed address to nyc - on 1 account and got locals at 14 but lost tonight (at 7 not locking) and not a lot of channels (my husband like brovo and cant get for a while now) i will call kiwisat tomorrow. i'm hoping they have a box something like the old 222 (2 tv 1 box) so i can have 3 (1 each for my rentals)....and 2 dvr box for me...
 

lpiorkowski

Active SatelliteGuys Member
Jan 9, 2010
16
2
south of the border
i'm fringe - changed address to nyc - on 1 account and got locals at 14 but lost tonight (at 7 not locking) and not a lot of channels (my husband like brovo and cant get for a while now) i will call kiwisat tomorrow. i'm hoping they have a box something like the old 222 (2 tv 1 box) so i can have 3 (1 each for my rentals)....and 2 dvr box for me...
i'm almost there 5% to 10% more and id be ok...
 

Rafaelccs

SatelliteGuys Pro
Oct 17, 2008
247
51
Fort Lauderdale
i'm fringe - changed address to nyc - on 1 account and got locals at 14 but lost tonight (at 7 not locking) and not a lot of channels (my husband like brovo and cant get for a while now) i will call kiwisat tomorrow. i'm hoping they have a box something like the old 222 (2 tv 1 box) so i can have 3 (1 each for my rentals)....and 2 dvr box for me...
Looks like your antenna is not well aligned.......if you go for Kiwisat, the satellite has a better footprint and an average technician will do the trick. When in fringe the best thing to do is align a single antenna to each satellite, sharing the antennas surface (gain) is for people very close to the main EIRP, the deeper you are in fringe the more you'll need the full antenna's gain in order to achieve stable signal levels....

I personally would only consider moving to the next option after exhausting all possibilities with my current hardware, unless you are done with your tech guy, that's different scenario.

I have heard from friends I have in the Caribbean that the picture quality of Kiwisat is great, but they take some time fixing channels that sporadically stay in a loop or freeze, I would say their operation is much more smaller than AT&T & Dish, so they probably won't have a so "big" (large) tech team behind their core operation......
Most content providers have their main feed now days over stream, larger ones will have a redundancy on satellite, but the ironical thing is that the content provider (Tuner, ViacomCBS, etc.) compresses, encrypts and transmits via satellite or terrestrial fiber, the provider (Dish or AT&T) will decrypt, digitalize, compress, encrypt again, and transmit, then the end user's receiver will do all the process again.....as you can see the operation needs a team of people monitoring this in all the channels they broadcast.....
 
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