"March Madness" 4K (though i doubt it)

[hancox]

Watch Your Favorite Sports and Movies in 4K | Sponsored by AT&T

I'm guessing this will be some Big12 / PAC12 tourney games, and maybe some NIT, but it anyone hearing anything?

 

[Don in CT]

Why would the NIT be in 4k?

 

[hancox]

Why would the NIT be in 4k?

I'm just trying to guess how they could advertise it through the end of the month. I can't come up with anything...

 

[Don in CT]

Is the Final Four in 4K?

 

[slice1900]

Is the Final Four in 4K?

Not a chance, that's on network TV and affiliates wouldn't like losing ad revenue.

If any of the NCAA tournament is in 4K it will be the early rounds that are on cable networks like TBS and TruTV. Since AT&T now owns those networks they ought to do something. Probably they'd only do games from one site, due to truck limitations, so whatever regional site they felt had the most compelling games would be the one chosen.

 

[bluegras]

Good afternoon you guys swanni is reporting that DirecTV is going to be showing March madness in ultra 4k hd hdr
Here is the link
DIRECTV to Air March Madness In 4K HDR - The TV Answer Man!

 

[slice1900]

They can't publish a schedule of the games until the brackets are seeded, and they'll be limited to a single site so they can't pick one game in the west region and another in the south, for example.

 

[Don in CT]

They will go where ever Duke or Gonzaga are seeded.

 

[slice1900]

They will go where ever Duke or Gonzaga are seeded.

Why? I don't think that the #1/#2 teams are necessarily the teams that will get the biggest audience. Especially when they will be playing the little sisters of the poor and winning by 50. A region that has a team with a larger or more national following, like Notre Dame, or a few compelling 5 vs 12 / 6 vs 11 matchups where the outcome is actually in doubt would make for more interested viewers.

 

[hancox]

Good afternoon you guys swanni is reporting that DirecTV is going to be showing March madness in ultra 4k hd hdr
Here is the link
DIRECTV to Air March Madness In 4K HDR - The TV Answer Man!

He's basing this on the graphic on the page, and he's likely wrong.

 

[Don in CT]

Why? I don't think that the #1/#2 teams are necessarily the teams that will get the biggest audience. Especially when they will be playing the little sisters of the poor and winning by 50. A region that has a team with a larger or more national following, like Notre Dame, or a few compelling 5 vs 12 / 6 vs 11 matchups where the outcome is actually in doubt would make for more interested viewers.

It's 12 games per site. You will have a 1 and some lower ranked spoilers all playing the same weekend.

 

[jcrandall]

4K list is updated to include full Big East and Big Ten tourneys - using channels 105 and 106 from 3/13-3/15.
At least in terms of Big Ten - that means the CBS semi and final games will not be 4K (and it would appear the Big East Final on FOX would not be 4K).

Also includes 4 NBA games, 4 EPL Soccer, and one MLB matchup during the first week of the regular season (likely MLB Network Showcase).

Coverage for additional March Madness is likely top be added later based on this text: "Watch March 19 – 30 on DIRECTV Ch. 106."

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[Don in CT]

I have to assume all broadcast cameras built and sold today have the ability to broadcast in 4k. So why is it so hard to broadcast in 4k. Are broadcast facilities not making these upgrades when they are changing out infrastructure?

 

[comp9]

I have to assume all broadcast cameras built and sold today have the ability to broadcast in 4k. So why is it so hard to broadcast in 4k. Are broadcast facilities not making these upgrades when they are changing out infrastructure?

Broadcast on what vehicle. No one has the bandwidth yet

Until we see ATSC 3.0. Your not going to see any local channels in 4K. Even then each station needs to upgrade its equipment also

 

[Don in CT]

Broadcast on what vehicle. No one has the bandwidth yet

Until we see ATSC 3.0. Your not going to see any local channels in 4K. Even then each station needs to upgrade its equipment also

Somebody needs to take the first step. Providers like Comcast are not going to do anything until the content is there. The consumer will need to push the providers to make the changes to broadcast 4K. Until CBS or NBC start producing more 4k content the consumer won't have any reason to tell Comcast they want it.

 

[slice1900]

I have to assume all broadcast cameras built and sold today have the ability to broadcast in 4k. So why is it so hard to broadcast in 4k. Are broadcast facilities not making these upgrades when they are changing out infrastructure?

It is FAR more than cameras. The "broadcast facilities" for sporting events are the trucks you see parked outside that contain all the control stuff, and uplink to the network's main site. Those facilities aren't built into a stadium, because the equipment ESPN uses is different from Fox's, which is different from CBS's etc. so the network has to bring a lot of their own.

The 4K production trucks are completely different, all new equipment. They aren't building a fleet of those, the networks have only or two right now. Then they have to have enough transponder space to uplink 4K from the event to the network, and then from the network to all the headends for Directv, cable etc. Some of them may be on broadband now but it will be many years before they are ALL on broadband and they can do away with the satellite uplinks, so that is a limiting factor.

I'm sure Kyl416 could come up with another dozen reasons I haven't thought of...

 

[comp9]

Somebody needs to take the first step. Providers like Comcast are not going to do anything until the content is there. The consumer will need to push the providers to make the changes to broadcast 4K. Until CBS or NBC start producing more 4k content the consumer won't have any reason to tell Comcast they want it.

The step will happen shortly after ATSC 3

 

[Don in CT]

It is FAR more than cameras. The "broadcast facilities" for sporting events are the trucks you see parked outside that contain all the control stuff, and uplink to the network's main site. Those facilities aren't built into a stadium, because the equipment ESPN uses is different from Fox's, which is different from CBS's etc. so the network has to bring a lot of their own.

The 4K production trucks are completely different, all new equipment. They aren't building a fleet of those, the networks have only or two right now. Then they have to have enough transponder space to uplink 4K from the event to the network, and then from the network to all the headends for Directv, cable etc. Some of them may be on broadband now but it will be many years before they are ALL on broadband and they can do away with the satellite uplinks, so that is a limiting factor.

I'm sure Kyl416 could come up with another dozen reasons I haven't thought of...

How much of uplink is done through fiber now?

 

[slice1900]

The step will happen shortly after ATSC 3

I think you are being very optimistic. I doubt 4K is even in the top three reasons why stations want to go ATSC 3.0.

 

[slice1900]

How much of uplink is done through fiber now?

I have no clue, but until satellite uplinks can be 100% eliminated which is many years away they have to take availability of C-band transponder bandwidth into account.