MAX Changing Names Again...

[b4pjoe]

Travel channel was an original Discovery channel. They are moving the Discovery content away from MAX as it transforms into HBO MAX.

 

[navychop]

Why is my head spinning?

 

[lakebum431]

Post this here, Warner Discovery stock down graded to junk status

S&P Downgrades Warner Bros. Discovery To Junk Status On “Weak Credit Metrics” That Would Get Worse If Company Splits

S&P downgraded Warner Bros. Discovery to junk status amid revenue and cash flow declines at linear TV. networks. It said a split in two wouldn't help.

deadline.com

I guess I'm the guy you're talking about? I have only pointed out when you post things that aren't accurate. There is nothing that I have disputed with you that I've ever been wrong about. You have posted several links with opinions from people, but they don't make them fact. Again, I have the actual information in this case. For example, in this case your post is not accurate. The downgrade mentioned above has nothing to do with the WBD stock it is for their bonds. 1 of the 3 rating agencies downgraded (S&P), the other two (Moody's and Fitch) still list it at investment grade. This was foreshadowed by the negative outlook they put on Warners back in the Fall.

 

[Bruce]

I guess I'm the guy you're talking about? I have only pointed out when you post things that aren't accurate. There is nothing that I have disputed with you that I've ever been wrong about.

Yet, not one link proving your point.

Any one posting here can pretend to be insiders or work for a company, that is why I have put up links in all my posts, in any others, I specifically write rumors, then will return to them when they are proven correct.

This is also why I doubt you are a inside source, when you post stuff like this-

Only $11.9m of that is in China where only about 55% goes back to the studio.

Yet, as I proved to you with a link, studios here only receive 25% of the China Box Office, due to a Trade Agreement between the two countries-

Here was my response-

Under a trade agreement established in 2012, the U.S. studios are entitled to only 25 percent of box office sales revenue for their films opening in China.

And the link I had provided-

Does Hollywood Need to Rethink Its China Strategy?

As the Asian power's domestic film market mostly thrives, the disappointing box office for Warner Bros.' 'The Batman' and other recent releases suggests a continuing decline in audience enthusiasm for U.S. tentpoles: "China seems to have turned its back on Hollywood."

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[lakebum431]

Think what you want buddy

 

[telstar_1]

The discovery crime ch. is my most-watched.

Meanwhile, I switched the DiSH guide over to "all ch's" to check out the current "premiums" that always started at 300. Now they don't start until like 308, but there's one ch. of Cinemax, 2 of HBO (e&w), also showtime & TMC just as of old, but there's something new stuck in the middle of all that called "5 star" which appears to run relatively newer movies.

A main reason I've known so little in this regard is that I was never interested in paying the ever-escalating premium ch. prices, particularly with HBO, nor in promoting them to sat customers. I had little interest in its "premium" scripted series such as "sopranos" anyhow. I just basically tuned out its existence. With DVR, don't need to endure commercials from the more basic offerings anyhow either. So my questions would be, apparently the owners of these ch's came out with a streaming service they named "Max," but it had nothing to do with Cinemax? And now they're changing it to HBO Max, but it has nothing to do with either HBO or Cinemax?

Cinemax apparently continues as a standalone premium movie ch, and HBO continues as a standalone general premium ch. as before & always? We sometimes used to refer to the bundled HBO/Cinemax offering as "HBO/Max"....

Why is my head spinning?

No $#@!

 

[Bruce]

The discovery crime ch. is my most-watched.

Meanwhile, I switched the DiSH guide over to "all ch's" to check out the current "premiums" that always started at 300. Now they don't start until like 308, but there's one ch. of Cinemax, 2 of HBO (e&w), also showtime & TMC just as of old, but there's something new stuck in the middle of all that called "5 star" which appears to run relatively newer movies.

That is just another Cinemax channel, 5 Star MAX.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Why is my head spinning?

No sh*t. This couldn't be any more confusing. It's like these companies want to make it as difficult as possible just to find the damn show you want to watch.

 

[telstar_1]

No sh*t. This couldn't be any more confusing. It's like these companies want to make it as difficult as possible just to find the damn show you want to watch.

Or to even want them...

 

[Bruce]

Neither of your last two paragraphs are accurate. I'm 100% certain. Nor does it make any sense as the majority of their cash comes from the linear networks and there would be no reason to cut off that cash flow stream. It also goes completely against what they said in their earnings call last week about the importance of the linear business and the slowing of losses there or their recently announced new linear carriage deals with both Comcast and Charter. Finally, they didn't eliminate their new scripted content as they showed multiple programs at their upfront presentation today (including the next iterations of the Librarians series).
The first paragraph is unlikely since 1) there is no actual announced spin off 2) most importantly, internationally HBO is being reported with the global linear networks segment as laid out in their Q1 10-Q.

100% certain the spin off will not happen?

Once again, I am correct-

The David Zaslav-led conglom will divide between Streaming & Studios and Global Networks.

Zaslav will lead Streaming & Studios while CFO Gunnar Wiedenfels takes on the President and CEO fo Global Networks role. Both will continue in their present roles at WBD until the separation.

Warner Bros. Discovery To Split Into Two Companies; Streaming & Studios Will Separate From Global Networks

Warner Bros. Discovery will split into two companies - Streaming & Studios will separate from Global Networks

deadline.com

 

[b4pjoe]

WBD also said on Monday it launched tender offers to restructure its existing debt, funded by a $17.5 billion bridge facility provided by J.P. Morgan.

Kicking more debt down the road. WBD is a disaster that is getting worse instead of better.

 

[lakebum431]

100% certain the spin off will not happen?

Once again, I am correct-

The David Zaslav-led conglom will divide between Streaming & Studios and Global Networks.

Zaslav will lead Streaming & Studios while CFO Gunnar Wiedenfels takes on the President and CEO fo Global Networks role. Both will continue in their present roles at WBD until the separation.

Warner Bros. Discovery To Split Into Two Companies; Streaming & Studios Will Separate From Global Networks

Warner Bros. Discovery will split into two companies - Streaming & Studios will separate from Global Networks

deadline.com

Dude, never said it wouldn't happen. What I said was that it was not a deal that was done as your two paragraphs stated. I can tell you that I was in the room when it was decided and it was AFTER this post. Period. Believe what you want, but at the time of posting it was 100% undecided and could have gone either way.

 

[savarese04]

You are Monday morning posting with the above, all of a sudden you do know, yet leaving up all those posts were you said I was incorrect.

NDAs are weird like that.

 

[Bruce]

NDAs are weird like that.

So a NDA prevented him from saying I am correct, but did not prevent him from saying I was incorrect?

 

[comfortably_numb]

This thread has gone off the rails!

 

[ncted]

This thread has gone off the rails!

As my cousin often laments, "we've all devolved to arguing with strangers on the internet."

 

[navychop]

I dispute that!

 

[lakebum431]

My first paragraph-

Then this-



Yet I did know, less than a month ago, my source was from someone who works at Paramount, how did she have the information, over you, who claims to work for them.


You are Monday morning posting with the above, all of a sudden you do know, yet leaving up all those posts were you said I was incorrect.

I also posted that Warner are doing massive cuts in the budgets for all their cable channels ( except HBO, which has already been cut), am I wrong on that also, because I know I am not.

Ha! she didn't know a month ago. It literally wasn't decided at that point. I promise you that. It was no where near a done deal. That's for sure. The potential transaction wasn't even structured at that point and the vote very easily could have gone the other way. Just because it ultimately happened does not mean that it was always going to go that way. These board discussions can be interesting to say the least.

 

[Juan]

Travel channel was an original Discovery channel. They are moving the Discovery content away from MAX as it transforms into HBO MAX.

If I remember correctly ..The original travel channel was related to the weather channel (back when they showed actual weather)...back in the 80s

 

[Bruce]

If I remember correctly ..The original travel channel was related to the weather channel (back when they showed actual weather)...back in the 80s

Nope, started in 1987, founded by TWA Marketing Services, the only connection to The Weather Channel, In 1992, the network was sold to Landmark, then-owner of the Weather Channel; five years later, Landmark sold it to Paxton, that same year, Discovery bought 70%, the remaining 30% in 1999.

https://www.worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-Business/Magazines/Archive-BC-IDX/92-OCR/BC-1992-03-23-OCR-Page-0105.pdf