Murdoch Puts DIRECTV On 'High' Road Targeting Big Spenders By Piling On Frills

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charper1

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Well as stated in that article: HD LIL for 76% (159.6) of the 210 DMAs by the end of 2006 would be these DMAs:

RANK Designated Market Area (DMA)
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 Boston (Manchester)
6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose
7 Dallas-Ft. Worth
8 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn)
9 Atlanta
10 Houston
11 Detroit
12 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota)
13 Seattle-Tacoma
14 Phoenix (Prescott)
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul
16 Cleveland-Akron (Canton)
17 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale
18 Denver
19 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto
20 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn
21 St. Louis
22 Pittsburgh
23 Portland, OR
24 Baltimore
25 Indianapolis
26 San Diego
27 Charlotte
28 Hartford & New Haven
29 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle)
30 Nashville
31 Kansas City
32 Columbus, OH
33 Milwaukee
34 Cincinnati
35 Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And
36 Salt Lake City
37 San Antonio
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce
39 Grand Rapids-Kalmzoo-B.Crk
40 Birmingham (Ann, Tusc)
41 Harrisburg-Lncstr-Leb-York
42 Norfolk-Portsmth-Newpt Nws
43 New Orleans
44 Memphis
45 Oklahoma City
46 Albuquerque-Santa Fe
47 Greensboro-H.Point-W.Salem
48 Las Vegas
49 Buffalo
50 Louisville
51 Providence-New Bedford
52 Jacksonville
53 Austin
54 Wilkes Barre-Scranton
55 Albany-Schenectady-Troy
56 Fresno-Visalia
57 Little Rock-Pine Bluff
58 Knoxville
59 Dayton
60 Richmond-Petersburg
61 Tulsa
62 Mobile-Pensacola (Ft Walt)
63 Lexington
64 Charleston-Huntington
65 Flint-Saginaw-Bay City
66 Ft. Myers-Naples
67 Wichita-Hutchinson Plus
68 Roanoke-Lynchburg
69 Green Bay-Appleton
70 Toledo
71 Tucson (Sierra Vista)
72 Honolulu
73 Des Moines-Ames
74 Portland-Auburn
75 Omaha
76 Syracuse
77 Springfield, MO
78 Spokane
79 Rochester, NY
80 Paducah-Cape Girard-Harsbg
81 Shreveport
82 Champaign&Sprngfld-Decatur
83 Columbia, SC
84 Huntsville-Decatur (Flor)
85 Madison
86 Chattanooga
87 South Bend-Elkhart
88 Cedar Rapids-Wtrlo-IWC&Dub
89 Jackson, MS
90 Burlington-Plattsburgh
91 Tri-Cities, TN-VA
92 Harlingen-Wslco-Brnsvl-McA
93 Colorado Springs-Pueblo
94 Waco-Temple-Bryan
95 Davenport-R.Island-Moline
96 Baton Rouge
97 Savannah
98 Johnstown-Altoona
99 El Paso (Las Cruces)
100 Evansville
101 Charleston, SC
102 Youngstown
103 Lincoln & Hastings-Krny
104 Ft. Smith-Fay-Sprngdl-Rgrs
105 Greenville-N.Bern-Washngtn
106 Ft. Wayne
107 Myrtle Beach-Florence
108 Springfield-Holyoke
109 Tallahassee-Thomasville
110 Lansing
111 Tyler-Longview(Lfkn&Ncgd)
112 Reno
113 Traverse City-Cadillac
114 Sioux Falls(Mitchell)
115 Augusta
116 Montgomery-Selma
117 Peoria-Bloomington
118 Fargo-Valley City
119 Boise
120 Macon
121 Eugene
122 SantaBarbra-SanMar-SanLuOb
123 La Crosse-Eau Claire
124 Lafayette, LA
125 Monterey-Salinas
126 Yakima-Pasco-Rchlnd-Knnwck
127 Columbus, GA
128 Bakersfield
129 Corpus Christi
130 Chico-Redding
131 Amarillo
132 Columbus-Tupelo-West Point
133 Rockford
134 Wausau-Rhinelander
135 Monroe-El Dorado
136 Topeka
137 Duluth-Superior
138 Columbia-Jefferson City
139 Wilmington
140 Beaumont-Port Arthur
141 Medford-Klamath Falls
142 Erie
143 Sioux City
144 Wichita Falls & Lawton
145 Joplin-Pittsburg
146 Lubbock
147 Albany, GA
148 Salisbury
149 Bluefield-Beckley-Oak Hill
150 Terre Haute
151 Bangor
152 Rochestr-Mason City-Austin
153 Palm Springs
154 Wheeling-Steubenville
155 Anchorage
156 Binghamton
157 Panama City
158 Biloxi-Gulfport
159 Odessa-Midland

or (for the .6 left over OUCH!)

160 Minot-Bismarck-Dickinson
 

bgsmallwood

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Wow, I didn't realize that E* had almost caught up with D* in terms of total subscribers, 12million versus 15million. Maybe Murdoch had better worry more about competing against E* than cable.
 

dragon002

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bgsmallwood said:
Wow, I didn't realize that E* had almost caught up with D* in terms of total subscribers, 12million versus 15million. Maybe Murdoch had better worry more about competing against E* than cable.


the gap of 3 million subs has stayed steady for almost 2-3 years now.
 

herdfan

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charper1 said:
Well as stated in that article: HD LIL for 76% (159.6) of the 210 DMAs by the end of 2006 would be these DMAs:

RANK Designated Market Area (DMA)
1 New York
2 Los Angeles
3 Chicago
4 Philadelphia
5 Boston (Manchester)
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157 Panama City
158 Biloxi-Gulfport
159 Odessa-Midland

or (for the .6 left over OUCH!)

160 Minot-Bismarck-Dickinson

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One other way of looking at the 76% number is not by DMA, but by % of the population covered. In that scenario, the 76% number falls in the middle of DMA #70.

A rough calculation of DMA populations is as follows:

1-10 29.608
11-20 14.370 43.978
21-30 9.624 53.602
31-40 7.386 60.988
41-50 6.032 67.020
51-60 5.092 72.112
61-70 4.221 76.333
 

Proc

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bgsmallwood said:
Wow, I didn't realize that E* had almost caught up with D* in terms of total subscribers, 12million versus 15million. Maybe Murdoch had better worry more about competing against E* than cable.


In my neighborhood, based upon my ultra-scientific research of checking out dishes while driving ;) I would say E* outnumbers D* 3 or 4 to 1.
 

scotsmanron

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If they think that they will have 9+% having HDDVRs they better start chaging something. That's almost a million point four of them and I don't think that they are going to get that to happen. Not at $500 a pop.
 

scotsmanron

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Proc said:
In my neighborhood, based upon my ultra-scientific research of checking out dishes while driving ;) I would say E* outnumbers D* 3 or 4 to 1.

Used to be here all you say was D*, now the E* dishes are beginning to make a major dent. It is obvious something has changed.
 

vurbano

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scotsmanron said:
If they think that they will have 9+% having HDDVRs they better start chaging something. That's almost a million point four of them and I don't think that they are going to get that to happen. Not at $500 a pop.
Your right. I think the current policies will actually cause a reduction or a very miniscule increase.
 

Gen Custer

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It's funny how they emphasize the upper tier customers specifically talking about HD and DVRs and they have no MPEG4 HD DVR ready to go yet.
 

Stargazer

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Ive been seeing more DirecTv dishes going up around here lately. People are switching to get the better deal.

These frills will eventually be standard for most satellite and cable providers which will not make it a premium anymore.
 

Alan Gordon

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scotsmanron said:
Used to be here all you say was D*, now the E* dishes are beginning to make a major dent. It is obvious something has changed.


Dish Network really came into this DMA when DirecTV was handled by Pegasus, and then when Dish Network added LIL, the SuperDISHes started popping up big time...

I've seen more DirecTV dishes than I used to, but Dish Network is still the king around here...

~Alan
 

Alan Gordon

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herdfan said:
One other way of looking at the 76% number is not by DMA, but by % of the population covered. In that scenario, the 76% number falls in the middle of DMA #70.

While I like Charper's list (my DMA is listed), your scenario is consistent of what DirecTV has said in the past...

~Alan
 

Scott Corbett

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herdfan said:
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One other way of looking at the 76% number is not by DMA, but by % of the population covered. In that scenario, the 76% number falls in the middle of DMA #70.

I agree that it is probably % of population.
 

RIRWIN1983

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Proc said:
In my neighborhood, based upon my ultra-scientific research of checking out dishes while driving ;) I would say E* outnumbers D* 3 or 4 to 1.

its vice versa in my neighborhood d* is in the lead, only 2nd to cable, then its e in 3rd place in both aspects
 

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Well D* just got SD locals in Youngstown last fall!! so E* was ahead since they had them for at least a year more. But all I see going in now is D*.
 

vurbano

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RIRWIN1983 said:
its vice versa in my neighborhood d* is in the lead, only 2nd to cable, then its e in 3rd place in both aspects
Well IMO its best to mount the dish where it cant be seen from the street as mine is. SO how does anyone really know?
 

herdfan

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In my DMA, E* used to rule because it was a couple bucks cheaper. Then those people got screwed when E* turned on the locals 6 months before D*, but there was a shortage of Superdishes. Only new customers could get them. By the time E* had a decent supply of dishes for existing customers, D* had 7S up and all the Phase III's they needed. So it is about even with E* having a slight lead still.

But E*'s locals look like !@#$!:D
 
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