NBC Local On KU-Band besides news?

[ussexplroer]

Last knight I went to sit down and watch the new Knight Rider 2008 movie. To my horror the local NBC channel was off the air. I also don't have a digital tuner to see if that was up. Plus I don't have cable so (Not that i know how they get away with it) but they show the Salt Lake City NBC channel as well as the local channel for NBC. I didn't think you could do out of market channels. But that is another talk. I looked and looked but could only find NBC new channels like MSNBC.
Luckly for me they are showing it again saturday night. But would like to avoid this. I think I can't find a CBS station too.

Any Help,

Thanks,

Josh

 

[brentb636]

Neither ABC, NBC or CBS on Ku band. The only actual affiliates are FOX, notably KUIL and WMQF .



Brent

 

[Diamond Jim]

Brent,

There are three ABC channels on Ku G10. Two from Wyoming and one from Little Rock.

 

[brentb636]

Cool, thanks Jim, I didn't think any of the G10 stuff carried the network programming.

I happily stand corrected !

 

[joem919]

and msnbc does show on ku also

 

[brentb636]

Yeah, but I think Josh is looking for the regular network programming, Prime Time, anyway. Now I'm wondering if the 4:2:2 NBC muxes on 103W carry what he's looking for? 4:2:2 raises another issue, of course. I get them with my skywalker-1 DVB setup, but DVB is not the "cheap" way to go, but a good "hobby" way to go.



Brent

[edit]
The NBC muxes on 103W look like the NBC solution for you Josh, just don't know how to get them economically.

 

[Mr Tony]

the NBC muxes on 103 are the national feeds so yes it would be on there. They're the same as what is on AMC4 C-Band

to get them he would need a PC card

 

[turbosat]

josh check your private mesg box

 

[Diamond Jim]

Cool, thanks Jim, I didn't think any of the G10 stuff carried the network programming. I happily stand corrected !

Your welcome. Glad to be of service.

 

[N3KTH]

Networks

If a person really needs the networks, C Band is the way to go. I am planning on upgrading my C Band from the 6'er to a 10' this summer. I will leave the 6' fixed on G16 so that the nets are always there. At least at my location, they are very strong and I have no problem with the 6' dish.

 

[ussexplroer]

Thanks for the help

Thanks for the help. I know I talked about getting a blind scan receiver before and that deal feel through. But thanks to tax returns. After I get my truck fixed. AKA in the shop now. I have money for a new receiver. I do have a cband dish but it is in storage since the house I'm in is not my own house. I'm can't decide to put a post in and goto the trouble or just store the dish.

I think I got the abc stations but not the cbs station. I'll look tonight and check.

Thanks again for the help.

Later,

Josh

 

[oncewaslost]

the NBC muxes on 103 are the national feeds so yes it would be on there. They're the same as what is on AMC4 C-Band

to get them he would need a PC card

What makes these feeds so unusual that a PC card is required?

 

[oncewaslost]

Oh, I just notice that some are 4:2:2

 

[brentb636]

Oh, I just notice that some are 4:2:2

Exactly, software decoding of the 4:2:2 video. I'm not exactly "in love" with my DVB PCI setup, it's much more cumbersome and demanding than a stb, but it sure is flexible in what it can do. It's an excellent backup system.


Brent

 

[dashaund]

What makes these feeds so unusual that a PC card is required?

Feel free to stand me corrected, those of you that undertsand the codecs more, but from what I understand, 4:2:2 is a much more complex standard and requires a LOT more processing power to decode...much more so than any STB can decode, therefore, it must refer to a computer processor to decode it. And not just any old computer processor. You need some horsepower. I get my motherboard back Tuesday, so, I'm gonna give Windows Vista 64 a shot, to see if it's any improvements over XP 32-bit.

 

[brentb636]

I think you're at least partly correct. The 4:2:2 NBC feeds are not too intensive, but if you encounter an HD 4:2:2 feed , then you have a lot of data to contend with, and it tends to tax even a PC solution, at least mine. Many of the 4:2:2 feeds are 720x512 or 720x480 , which handle pretty easily on a pc, and probably on an stb, too. I've seen 1920x180i, 4:2:2 and it had my pc working very hard. If somebody DOES bring out an HD box that supports 4:2:2, it'll have some horsepower .


Brent

- DVB setup --
Athlon X2 4600+
2GB RAM
Windows XP Pro,
ATI Radeon 2600HD XT, 256 MB GDDR4
Genpix Skywalker-1
DvbDream 1.4i
Tsreader/VLC

 

[Mr Tony]

also a 4:2:2 feed wont work on pretty much any box except the quali-tv (which is around 700 bucks)

 

[Tron]

The MPEG4/H.264 codec is the one where you pretty much need the fastest current PC you can find/afford...

 

[brentb636]

The tests of the newer Nvidea ( 8500/8600 series) and ATI (2400/2600 series ) video cards at Toms Hardware conclusively shows that decoding of the h.264 stream by the video hardware, substantially reduces cpu load. By the same token, I suspect, 4:2:2 video , if decoded by hardware , instead of software , will also reduce the cpu load substantially.
I have no doubt that somebody COULD manufacture an stb with these features , supporting dvb-s and dvb-s2 , but I wonder if they WILL anytime soon. Until then, I get to keep my fairly kludgy pc-based solution.

 

[TiminMb]

Sometimes the NBC feeds seem to lack video, but have sound only for live shows. Is that 4:2:2 or HD. I'm wondering what happened to the video for my favorite show in Saturday nights?