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I'm curious what others think about something. I really don't like it when a running back or receiver is obviously stopped 4 yards short of the line to gain or goal line, then suddenly they put 1,000 lbs behind him and he gains another 6 yards. I'm not so much referring to the tush push, but anytime is bad to me. And the announcers are clueless.............."look at that running back keep his legs moving and pushing the pile forward". Nonsense, his team is carrying him forward.

It used to be against the rules, I wish it still was. I don't think the "scrum" adds anything positive to the game. However, if fans like it and it's going to be allowed, I think it should work both ways. If the defense wins the scrum, then place the ball 5 yards back where they pushed it to. No more "forward progress". As it stands, the offense has nothing to lose, the defense has nothing to gain.

What do you think?
 
I'm curious what others think about something. I really don't like it when a running back or receiver is obviously stopped 4 yards short of the line to gain or goal line, then suddenly they put 1,000 lbs behind him and he gains another 6 yards. I'm not so much referring to the tush push, but anytime is bad to me. And the announcers are clueless.............."look at that running back keep his legs moving and pushing the pile forward". Nonsense, his team is carrying him forward.

It used to be against the rules, I wish it still was. I don't think the "scrum" adds anything positive to the game. However, if fans like it and it's going to be allowed, I think it should work both ways. If the defense wins the scrum, then place the ball 5 yards back where they pushed it to. No more "forward progress". As it stands, the offense has nothing to lose, the defense has nothing to gain.

What do you think?
I dont ever remember it as a illegal move? They play till the whistle stops. If forward progress stops, while is to blow.You couldnt pull your player forward years ago.
 
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I'm curious what others think about something. I really don't like it when a running back or receiver is obviously stopped 4 yards short of the line to gain or goal line, then suddenly they put 1,000 lbs behind him and he gains another 6 yards. I'm not so much referring to the tush push, but anytime is bad to me. And the announcers are clueless.............."look at that running back keep his legs moving and pushing the pile forward". Nonsense, his team is carrying him forward.

It used to be against the rules, I wish it still was. I don't think the "scrum" adds anything positive to the game. However, if fans like it and it's going to be allowed, I think it should work both ways. If the defense wins the scrum, then place the ball 5 yards back where they pushed it to. No more "forward progress". As it stands, the offense has nothing to lose, the defense has nothing to gain.

What do you think?
I agree with you, players pushing another player should be blown dead at the point of contact.

It use to be illegal, then they changed the rule for some reason.

It got started in College back when Reggie Bush was at ND, then went away.
 
I dont ever remember it as a illegal move? They play till the whistle stops. If forward progress stops, while is to blow.You couldnt pull your player forward years ago.
Nope, your not allowed to PULL your player now, either ... they tried pulling a runner into the endzone recently and was whistled dead.
 
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Think I stated that?
You said, you "don't remember it being an illegal move " ....

Did I mis read what you were saying ?

You are not allowed to Pull a player in any direction ... Push should be the same.

There was a big deal about it about 20 years back and they changed the rule for some unknown reason.
 
You said, you "don't remember it being an illegal move " ....

Did I mis read what you were saying ?

You are not allowed to Pull a player in any direction ... Push should be the same.

There was a big deal about it about 20 years back and they changed the rule for some unknown reason.
No, the question was pushing a player. I clearly stated I dont ever remember pushing a player illegal? I said as soon as forward progress stops the whistle blows. Then stated I know you cant pull a player?
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It used to be against the rules, I wish it still was. I don't think the "scrum" adds anything positive to the game. However, if fans like it and it's going to be allowed, I think it should work both ways. If the defense wins the scrum, then place the ball 5 yards back where they pushed it to. No more "forward progress". As it stands, the offense has nothing to lose, the defense has nothing to gain.

What do you think?
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My answer:I dont ever remember it as a illegal move? They play till the whistle stops. If forward progress stops, while is to blow.You couldnt pull your player forward years ago.
 
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I'm curious what others think about something. I really don't like it when a running back or receiver is obviously stopped 4 yards short of the line to gain or goal line, then suddenly they put 1,000 lbs behind him and he gains another 6 yards.
That popped into my mind yesterday. I was thinking to myself why don't they blow the whistle as soon as the players progress stops? If he stops moving forward and the defense pushes him backwards 5 yards they don't put the ball there. They put it where his forward progress stopped. The problem is they don't blow the whistle until a part of him touches the ground like his knee or elbow or when the defense starts pushing him backward. They should have the same rule for both the offense and the defense.

And don't get me started about some of the PI calls. A QB has nothing to lose on 3rd and long. Throw it as far as you can and there is a very good chance you will get a defensive PI call. If not a defensive PI but an interception it is usually as good as a punt.
 
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That popped into my mind yesterday. I was thinking to myself why don't they blow the whistle as soon as the players progress stops? If he stops moving forward and the defense pushes him backwards 5 yards they don't put the ball there. They put it where his forward progress stopped. The problem is they don't blow the whistle until a part of him touches the ground like his knee or elbow or when the defense starts pushing him backward. They should have the same rule for both the offense and the defense.

And don't get me started about some of the PI calls. A QB has nothing to lose on 3rd and long. Throw it as far as you can and there is a very good chance you will get a defensive PI call. If not a defensive PI but an interception it is usually as good as a punt.
I agree ...
 
I remember in high school (during the stone age) I handed the ball off to a running back. He got stopped at the line, so I got behind him and pushed. I was penalized for "Unsportsmanlike conduct" 15 yards. I don't remember what the penalty was in the NFL or college, but it was not allowed.

When I did a search, here's what AI came up with:

It became legal to push a running back in the NFL in 2005, when the league changed the rules to allow pushing but continued to ban pulling the runner. This change was made to simplify officiating, as it was difficult to determine who was pushing whom during plays.
 

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