No disrespect, but spend $200 on equipment, almost $200 a month and then use a work-around? That is not how we do things where I am from. If I make a promise, I keep it. I always strive to be the best and expect the same from others. And if I make a mistake, I right it, Furthermore, because I can not delete weak channels and scan in stronger ones (from local repeaters), I can not watch several of the OTA networks. Some of those that I can, I have no guide information for, so it is far more difficult setting up recordings. Having said all that I will set up my channel master DVR to record OTA, because the Hoppet is just not there.