Picture breakup with 129 and 500

iceshark

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well I spoke to soon about my nice 75-80 signal on my seperate dish 500 pointed at 129 here in Washington.

Last night with mild rain and clouds my signal dropped to 40-46 and my Worldsport suffered some breakups.

Tomorrow I will put the rectangle microyal DP LNB on my 61.5 pointed old Voom 30inch dish and see if it gets me some better signal!
 
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WLong

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Which transponders are you seeing the drops on? I just had my install done today and the installer setup a seperate DISH 500 pointed at 129 and all of the TP's I checked were around 75-90 in strength.

-Bill
 

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Greg Mueller said:
Iceshark

You need one of these 1.2Ms :)
Greg, Did you see my post about the 75E?
One thing I noticed right away is that the 622 has lower signal readings on all sats then my 921. Right now on 129 I am getting 70 on 3, 75 on 9, 70 on11, 60 on 17, 70 on19, 66 on 30, and 74 on 31. Those are the tps that we have programming on. I'm still using a D500 with DP twin. I was wondering if I might get a better signal if I put a DP dual on that dish, what do you think?
 

Foyd Zimmerman

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iceshark,
What part of Washington do you reside in? I live in N.W. Oregon and have the same problem. The installer keeps telling me that it's the satellite.
Floyd
 

WLong

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I am in Snohomish, WA and here are my readings on those TP's from a DISH 622 receiver.

TP3 - 66
TP6 - 66
TP9 - 80
TP11 - 65
TP17 - 67
TP19 - 65
TP23 - 67
TP30 - 66
TP31 - 70

Thus far, nothing has dropped out. It was raining here last night and I didnt notice any significant issues with the signal.

The 622 did quit displaying video once I was done taking these readins however.

On my 211 here is what I get:

TP3 - 72
TP6 - 67
TP9 - 82
TP11 - 69
TP17 - 74
TP19 - 70
TP23 - 71
TP30 - 70
TP31 - 75

The strength seems to fluctuate. If I go look at the signal on the 622 again I see higher numbers there as well. Anyhow, hopefully this helps fuel the discussion further.

-Bill
 

rixhd

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I just split 129 off my Dish 1000 and put it onto a separate Dish 500. It improved 129 quite a bit but I still get an occasional drop/pixelation. I noticed that it will drop periodically (about every half hour) even on a clear day for about a minute and then come back full strength. These are my latest readings after the Dish 500 install with my 921; the second column is a partly cloudy day several days ago, the third column is today, totally overcast and drizzle:

TP / SS / SS
1 / 75 / 66
2 / 71 / 65
3 / 73 / 66
4 / 82 / 73
5 / 85 / 76
6 / 70 / 63
7 / 85 / 78
8 / 68 / 63
9 / 83 / 80
10 / 83 / 78
11 / 71 / 67
12 / 86 / 80
13 / 87 / 81
14 / 81 / 77
15 / 86 / 82
16 / 85 / 77
17 / 83 / 75
18 / 78 / 71
19 / 72 / 66
20 / 83 / 76
21 / 83 / 75
22 / 71 / 65
23 / 75 / 68
24 / 73 / 67
25 / -- / --
26 / -- / --
27 / 75 / 67
28 / -- / --
29 / -- / --
30 / 72 / 65
31 / 78 / 71

(This post moved from thread "Install Today" MLONG)
 
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Dirtydan
Yah I'd put on the dual.

How's the signal fluctuation?

As long as my signal didn't drop below 50 (in the before time) it was fine, so I wouldn't be to worried about signals in the 70s as long as stayed there. I don't get extremely high signals now (90s) but they stay in the 90s all the time
 

Dirtydan

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Greg Mueller said:
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Yah I'd put on the dual.

How's the signal fluctuation?

As long as my signal didn't drop below 50 (in the before time) it was fine, so I wouldn't be to worried about signals in the 70s as long as stayed there. I don't get extremely high signals now (90s) but they stay in the 90s all the time

I have never seen wide fluctuations, but what has changed is that the tps we get programming on have the higher signals, it used to be the other way around. I have stared at my signal for the better part of an hour and it stayed within 1 or 2 points of highest reading. What I need now is an "I" adapter, not one in my area, might have to order one from Dish Store.
 

Foyd Zimmerman

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I have a separate 500 dish for the 129 satellite. The signal will drop about every half hour. It is very frustrating. I was thinking about installing the dish about three feet higher. Any thoughts on this? Or is this a issue that E must work on.
Floyd
 

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Foyd Zimmerman said:
I have a separate 500 dish for the 129 satellite. The signal will drop about every half hour. It is very frustrating. I was thinking about installing the dish about three feet higher. Any thoughts on this? Or is this a issue that E must work on.
Floyd

I doubt that raising it 3ft. would help
 

iceshark

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WLong said:
I am in Snohomish, WA and here are my readings on those TP's from a DISH 622 receiver.

TP3 - 66
TP6 - 66
TP9 - 80
TP11 - 65
TP17 - 67
TP19 - 65
TP23 - 67
TP30 - 66
TP31 - 70

Thus far, nothing has dropped out. It was raining here last night and I didnt notice any significant issues with the signal.

The 622 did quit displaying video once I was done taking these readins however.

On my 211 here is what I get:

TP3 - 72
TP6 - 67
TP9 - 82
TP11 - 69
TP17 - 74
TP19 - 70
TP23 - 71
TP30 - 70
TP31 - 75

The strength seems to fluctuate. If I go look at the signal on the 622 again I see higher numbers there as well. Anyhow, hopefully this helps fuel the discussion further.

-Bill

Bill your just about exact to my numbers for 129 here down the street from you in Marysville. I had some pixelation or digital breakup and signal dropped about 15-25 points last night about midnight.

I have a huge 3foot plus (1.2m) Voom dish that is currently pointed at 61.5. I ordered a DPlnb from Ebay and it came yesterday. Its a rectangle model so I dont have to cut off the 4 inches on big dish. I will report back when I put it on today.
Thanks all you west coasters for helping each other!
 

iceshark

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One question, will I have duplicate channels in different channel locations for HD by using both 129 and 61.5 I know they are mirrored but its the channel designation I am asking about?
 

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iceshark said:
One question, will I have duplicate channels in different channel locations for HD by using both 129 and 61.5 I know they are mirrored but its the channel designation I am asking about?

No. They are the same channel numbers. I disconnected my 129 connection to the DPP44 because of the low signals off 129. The receivers constantly picked 129 over 61.5.
 

WLong

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I thought it might be helpful to repost my numbers later in the evening. These are from my 622 only.

TP3 - 74
TP6 - 73
TP9 - 85
TP11 - 72
TP17 - 74
TP19 - 72
TP23 - 73
TP30 - 72
TP31 - 78

Now for the sake of dicsussion, here are the original numbers.

TP3 - 66
TP6 - 66
TP9 - 80
TP11 - 65
TP17 - 67
TP19 - 65
TP23 - 67
TP30 - 66
TP31 - 70

When I started checking the strength, 30 and 31 were in the high 50's. Moments later, they jumped back to the high 70's. Very odd behavior. I have sat here with the meter on both TP's since then (alternating, of course) and I havent seen it drop back down there in a good 20 minutes.

Just for reference, my average signal strength on 100 and 119 is somewhere in the 90-120 range. There is certainly something up with 129 here on the west coast. I havent had it drop, but I dont see the signal strength I would expect.

I wont complain though! Before I had this installer come and completely move my dish and setup the new one, I was actually unable to watch 119 pretty much AT ALL if there was any rain whatsoever. My sig strength was 50 on a good day on just about every TP.

-Bill
 

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