PS3 security broken for good?

[diogen]

A bit more info
Sony goes to court to get PS3 key crackers to shut up already

In a nutshell, Sony simply wants everyone to cut it out and stop sharing these exploits on the Internet.
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As of this writing, cracking the PlayStation 3 is a trivial thing. You download the custom firmware, update your system, and you then have access to everything in a matter of minutes. You can run pirated games, install other operating systems, or simply muck about and do some coding. It's all available to you, and Sony has lost control over what you do with your system. This suit may silence the groups that originally opened the door to an open and compromised PlayStation 3, but it won't close it again.

Diogen.

EDIT:
Hopefully somebody either from Europe or in AnyDVD's neighborhood picks up the torch...
Will those big corporations ever learn not to f**k with the Linux crowd?

 

[diogen]

Getting more and more interesting by the hour
Sony follows up, officially sues Geohot and fail0verflow over PS3 jailbreak -- Engadget

Can't wait to see how this unfolds...

PS3 security looks really to be toast. Just as Intel's HDCP...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

As expected
Ubisoft: Sony will not be able to stop PS3 pirates - TechSpot News

If that hack works as reported, I don't believe that Sony can regain any control... I don't believe that Sony can even detect which users to lock out from PSN.

Sony's only possible solution is to revise the PS3 hardware itself...(PS4?)

Diogen.

EDIT:
Even Sony's court case looks miserable after geohot's lawyer response

Even more harmful to Sony's personal jurisdiction argument, the only evidence put forward of Mr. Hotz' PayPal account appears to be a transaction initiated by the plaintiff.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/01/sonys-options-are-limited-in-face-of-ps3-jailbreak.ars

 

[beast37799]

sony brought this apon themselves by removing the other os feature

 

[grydlok]

sony brought this apon themselves by removing the other os feature

Yeah pretty much

 

[diogen]

Latest developments...
PS3 firmware 3.56 hacked in less than a day, Sony's lawyers look confused -- Engadget

...wouldn't you know it: 3.56 was cracked open in less than a day by KaKaRoToKS, who was behind one of the first 3.55 custom firmwares. Now that the 3.56 signing keys are out, we'd guess updated custom firmware is soon to come -- and we'd bet Sony's lawsuit will just inspire an entirely new wave of people to jailbreak once those hit the scene. Way to put that genie back in the bottle, Sony.

Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

And Sony strikes back. Sony has won a restraining order. http://techweek.org/29291sony-wins-restraining-order-against-ps3-hacker.html.
They also said have successively blocked access to the Playstation network through DNS or Proxy hacks.
They have also gone after twitter accounts , youtube videos .

Guys. Buy the game. It's not worth it . People who work hard to make a game deserve to be paid.

 

[diogen]

Sony has won a restraining order.

They did.
What has this accomplished?
Is the master key still valid? Yes. Can you find it? Yes.
Can you still sign your own "apps"? Yes.

So, is Sony's achievement anything but intimidation? No.

Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

They did.
What has this accomplished?
Is the master key still valid? Yes. Can you find it? Yes.
Can you still sign your own "apps"? Yes.

So, is Sony's achievement anything but intimidation? No.

Diogen.

Yes but what would you do? I'm with Sony just like I would be with Directv or Dish that goes after hackers. The hack is designed specifically to facilitate theft of copyrighted materials.

 

[dangue]

Yes but what would you do? I'm with Sony just like I would be with Directv or Dish that goes after hackers. The hack is designed specifically to facilitate theft of copyrighted materials.

Quite honestly, I think Sony brought this on themselves by removing advertised functionality from the original PS3. I honestly never installed a second OS onto my PS3, but I know people that had who were seriously annoyed by Sony removing that feature (one that enticed them to buy the system to begin with). It's only since then that all the jail breaking and hacking has gone into overdrive (under the auspices of restoring that functionality- not that I don't believe piracy to also be a big motivator). I think Sony overreached and miscalculated; they pissed off the wrong segment of their user base. And now they're desperate to try and put the genie back into the bottle.

 

[diogen]

Yes but what would you do?

Purely theoretical....
For starters, I wouldn't declare that the number 4 is the best random number under the sun.
One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to do that, just not to be stupid!

Second, I'd hire somebody capable of explaining that f***ing with a 20 year old open OS (Linux), is asking for trouble!

And third, maybe the same guy can explain that asking to forget a number splattered all over the internet is a waste of time.

Bottom line: I'd never be in their boat. And as a side note, get off your morality horse, it doesn't work that way...

Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

Purely theoretical....
For starters, I wouldn't declare that the number 4 is the best random number under the sun.
One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to do that, just not to be stupid!

Second, I'd hire somebody capable of explaining that f***ing with a 20 year old open OS (Linux), is asking for trouble!

And third, maybe the same guy can explain that asking to forget a number splattered all over the internet is a waste of time.

Bottom line: I'd never be in their boat. And as a side note, get off your morality horse, it doesn't work that way...

Diogen.

Morality horse? So if someone found a way to hack a Satellite box and you could get free programing would you feel the same way? Hacking is stealing. And that's why Sony is trying to stop it. People who make games deserve to be paid for what they do.

Now I can't wait to hear the reasons why it's the fault of Sony.

"The games cost too much"

"Sony is a rich corporation. They can afford it"

Yeah Yeah Yeah.

 

[diogen]

Now I can't wait to hear the reasons why it's the fault of Sony.

Geeez...
I explained it in the very post you quoted!

Don't get it? Stick to the sport section then...

Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

Geeez...
I explained it in the very post you quoted!

Don't get it? Stick to the sport section then...

Diogen.

If George Hotz was any kind of man he would find real work helping a company instead of hurting them. Of course people who steal and hack love the guy. They don't want to pay for games. I get it. But does this guy have a real job? It's funny to read how some say Sony should hire him. Like that would ever happen. Can you imagine trusting George Hotz with company secrets. Could Sony trust him as an employee? I don't know if he thinks he's going to get rich this way but I wonder how he would feel if he ran a company and someone hacked into his system.

 

[diogen]

WTF is this rhetoric all about?

Remember Wall Street:
Bud Fox: Why do you need to wreck this company?
Gordon Gekko: Because it's WRECKABLE, all right?

That is the motto of business. Always was, always will be.

Why do they hack the PS3? Because it is hackable! Get it?

Direct TV was hackable and nothing, including lawsuits, helped until they fixed it.
Dish was completely open for over 5 years. Did any of the morality b!tching helped? No.
Hacking stopped when they fixed it.

PS3 is hacked. It would be not a problem if Sony knew a thing or two about cryptography.
They don't. They f**cked it up. And deserve what is coming to them.

Developer suffering? Collateral damage.
Next time they will think twice before having anything to do with Sony...

For the record, I don't play games (except Angry Birds) for over 10 years.
But I know a few things about math.

Take care.
Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

WTF is this rhetoric all about?

Remember Wall Street:
Bud Fox: Why do you need to wreck this company?
Gordon Gekko: Because it's WRECKABLE, all right?

That is the motto of business. Always was, always will be.

Why do they hack the PS3? Because it is hackable! Get it?

Direct TV was hackable and nothing, including lawsuits, helped until they fixed it.
Dish was completely open for over 5 years. Did any of the morality b!tching helped? No.
Hacking stopped when they fixed it.

PS3 is hacked. It would be not a problem if Sony knew a thing or two about cryptography.
They don't. They f**cked it up. And deserve what is coming to them.

Developer suffering? Collateral damage.
Next time they will think twice before having anything to do with Sony...

For the record, I don't play games (except Angry Birds) for over 10 years.
But I know a few things about math.

Take care.
Diogen.

The PS3 was secure for a long time. It was only because George Hotz wanted this to be about him and how "smart" he is . And yet does he have a job? Would anybody ever hire this man? I doubt it.

 

[diogen]

Official word
Sony releases statement on PS3 hacking, surprisingly comes out against it -- Engadget

Consumers using circumvention devices or running unauthorized or pirated software will have access to the
PlayStation Network and access to Qriocity services through PlayStation 3 system terminated permanently.

It's really hard to believe, but it looks like they've smartened up...

Now, let's wait and see whether they have this capability.
No doubt this will be tested...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

It might turn out that hacking PS3's master key isn't Sony's biggest problem.

The Playstation Network itself is such a security disaster, people might opt not to
have anything to do with it regardless of whether they hacked their consoles or not.
Report: PSN hacked, showing stunning lack of credit card security

Diogen.

 

[televisionarchives]

It might turn out that hacking PS3's master key isn't Sony's biggest problem.

The Playstation Network itself is such a security disaster, people might opt not to
have anything to do with it regardless of whether they hacked their consoles or not.
Report: PSN hacked, showing stunning lack of credit card security

Diogen.

I don't believe it. They know what kind of Television you're using?

 

[diogen]

No doubt this will be tested...

I could've been wrong.
It looks like people interested in hacking are exactly the ones that don't
give a sh!t about the Sony services in general and PSN in particular...
Inquirer readers tell sony what it can do with its network- The Inquirer

Not that it should surprise anybody...

Diogen.