I just bought a R10 for 98.47 from Walmart. They make you go buy the cell phone booth for the access card. No mention of having a time limit on activation. Did not even take my name. They have a pad with coupons for existing customers to get it installed for $50. I thougt walmart had pulled out all the sat equipment for sale. Did they not use to sell Dish Net? they also had a stack of hd receivers but no hdtivo. The cashier told me that to get a dish you had to be a new customer and call directv. I wonder if they will sell the new R15.