Record labels, satellite radio in conflict

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LOS ANGELES--The record industry may next aim its legal guns at satellite radio due to a dispute involving new portable players that let listeners record and store songs, an analyst and industry sources said on Wednesday.

The record industry, led by major labels such as Vivendi Universal, Warner Music Group, EMI Group and Sony BMG, believe the recording capability is a clear copyright violation and could take revenue away from paid download music services.

Illegal song trading has been blamed by the record industry for declines in sales, and labels have become increasingly aggressive in their legal battles to defend their product. Now that focus includes portable players.

"There are genuine issues here but it is our continuing hope that we can resolve this on a business-to-business basis," said a spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America.

Two music industry sources said that the two sides were in talks to resolve the issue and could go to court over the matter.

JP Morgan analyst Barton Crockett in a report suggested there might be more conflict in store.

"Based on recent talks with execs at record labels and the Recording Industry Association of America, we see potential spats ahead. RIAA may file a lawsuit this fall to stop a new feature for upcoming wearable satellite radios," he wrote.

No. 1 satellite provider XM Satellite Radio Holdings said it was also hopeful the issues will be resolved.

"The music industry is an important partner and we continue to listen to their concerns in hopes of finding a resolution that benefits everyone, especially consumers," said Nathaniel Brown, a spokesman for XM.

Sirius Satellite Radio declined to comment.

In August, Sirius said it will introduce a small portable device, dubbed the S50, for its subscription radio service that can store 50 hours of music, news and programs from Sirius channels, in a move to narrow the gap with XM Satellite, which has had a portable device on the market since last fall.

Beginning in the fourth quarter, XM will also begin to offer MP3-enabled portable satellite radios developed by Korea's Samsung Electronics.

Even if the conflict winds up in court, Crockett said in his report, he did not believe such a suit would succeed because so-called 'fair use' laws allow users to record songs for their own use.

He said it could pose a "headline risk" for satellite radio and prompt a lobbying push by the recording industry as the two industries wrangle over a new music rights contract.

Crockett said the RIAA may seek $1 billion or more in music rights fees for a new contract covering 2007 to 2012 to replace the current $80 million pact that expires in 2006.

But the record industry expects these contract talks will wind up in arbitration, one source said.

In the meantime, XM has announced a partnership with paid service Napster that lets portable-device listeners mark songs they hear on the satellite service to purchase from Napster.

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What a crock of crap. The RIAA is way way way out of control. Sandy Bergman( I believe that's his name) was on call for help recently and totally summed a conversation I had about music 4 years ago. He basically explained a plan where you could download a song for about 5 cents a pop (which was way more realistic and competitive). He said we were paying way to much for music download at 99 cents and gave execllent rationale and great model where everybody wins. He also explained that the music industry is still clinging to the old way of doing business which basically is still grounded in the 20th century and not the 21st. My questions is what's the freakin difference by recording music with the rca jacks, the end result is still the same. If you wanna see the RIAA in how I think they really are, then just check out the attached jpeg (it kinda sums up those nazis! and it's good for laugh :D )
 

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Here's the thing, Let's say I hear some great song on satellite. Unless it's a popular song, I don't have the CHOICE of walking into bestbuy and picking it up because they don't have everything.

Even online stores like itunes don't have everything. I haven't checked them out in a while but for a heavy metal fan, they are severly lacking at times.

As soon as anyone can buy any song online, this RIAA argument is valid. Until then, they can kiss my ass. I hear so many great covers on satellite radio that I have no idea how to get any other way, it's a pain in the ass at times...
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9629461/site/newsweek/

Just read about this in Newsweek... This is just the beginning of the &^%$#%^&C!!! that the RIAA is pulling... They are wanting a cut from the search engines every time someone types in something like 'Madonna' and wanting bigger cuts of ITunes, etc... They just arent happy unless they are trying to find ways to rape the consumers...
 
Can you blame them? Maybe if they phased out cd's and went digital only and put EVERY SONG ONLINE, they could avoid the costs of having 14 year old cd's on the shelf at bestbuy...

Plus since all the songs would be digital and restored, you could replenish your library of older material that they refuse to remaster for CD distribution...

It's just nutty, we WANT to pay for music but they won't give it to us in the format we want. We're TRYING to give them our money but they won't listen, aahhhhh
 
nitstalker said:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9629461/site/newsweek/

Just read about this in Newsweek... This is just the beginning of the &^%$#%^&C!!! that the RIAA is pulling... They are wanting a cut from the search engines every time someone types in something like 'Madonna' and wanting bigger cuts of ITunes, etc... They just arent happy unless they are trying to find ways to rape the consumers...

I just read that newsweek article, man those clowns (RIAA) are completely out of touch with the way the business model should flow. They could make sooo much money if they just had a clue. It's sad really. :no
 
I agree with DiscoLoveGrapes above. Also, if the RIAA doesn't quit, they are going to alienate their USERBASE, and make ZERO $$.

LER
 
We keep saying that, but the RIAA is not hurting for income from sales, so I don't know why we say it...

Very few have gone to all-piracy methods of getting music, even though it's pretty much safe to do so again...
 

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