Recording an event by Rewinding my Hopper3

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While watching my local news, I saw a story featuring one of my Cub Scouts. I rewound my Hopper3 receiver to the beginning of the story and selected record. The DVR tab showed the local news being recorded. But then the listed event went away. It was not recorded.

On my previous VIP receivers I was able to rewind and record a past event. Is this not possible on the Hopper3? Or do I need to do something different? I wanted to record the story so I could share it with others.

I called Dish Technical Support and we tested rewinding and recording. It worked each time so I am confused why it did not work earlier.


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...I called Dish Technical Support and we tested rewinding and recording. It worked each time so I am confused why it did not work earlier.
I have had that happen to me too. Most of the time it works, but you have to remember that Dish software is extremely buggy and unexpected things happen frequently.
 
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I have been with Dish for over 20 years. Of all the electronics in our house, Dish easily has the buggiest software.

If that is true, then you have been very fortunate indeed...
I have experienced plenty of things with far worse software.
 
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I can usually record by rewinding BUT - I've found that if the program is actually "over" (but still in buffer), I can back up and watch it, but I can NOT record it. When I press the record button, it appears to take it, but nothing happens. I've just chalked it up to one of those little idiosyncrasies. (BTW - these are not PTAT programs) But I don't understand why I can't choose to record an entire episode (or any programming) from any point within that program - without needing to "rewind". Something like 10 or more years ago, I could do that with DTV. I think when you hit the record button in the middle of a program, it would ask you what you wanted to do. It seems like that would be a logical or common feature.
 
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I can usually record by rewinding BUT - I've found that if the program is actually "over" (but still in buffer), I can back up and watch it, but I can NOT record it. When I press the record button, it appears to take it, but nothing happens. I've just chalked it up to one of those little idiosyncrasies. (BTW - these are not PTAT programs) But I don't understand why I can't choose to record an entire episode (or any programming) from any point within that program - without needing to "rewind". Something like 10 or more years ago, I could do that with DTV. I think when you hit the record button in the middle of a program, it would ask you what you wanted to do. It seems like that would be a logical or common feature.
The same thing happens to me too. I don't think the HWS was that way or maybe something happened with the new interface. I recall when I use to back up and then hit record, the program would record at that point.
 
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I can usually record by rewinding BUT - I've found that if the program is actually "over" (but still in buffer), I can back up and watch it, but I can NOT record it. When I press the record button, it appears to take it, but nothing happens. I've just chalked it up to one of those little idiosyncrasies. (BTW - these are not PTAT programs) But I don't understand why I can't choose to record an entire episode (or any programming) from any point within that program - without needing to "rewind". Something like 10 or more years ago, I could do that with DTV. I think when you hit the record button in the middle of a program, it would ask you what you wanted to do. It seems like that would be a logical or common feature.

Xfoneguy, you nailed it. The news had ended at 12:30 PM but the news broadcast was still in the buffer. It would not record since the program had ended.

I just tested this by trying to go back and record a program that had ended and it would not record. I know that this worked on my VIP receivers.


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The same thing happens to me too. I don't think the HWS was that way or maybe something happened with the new interface. I recall when I use to back up and then hit record, the program would record at that point.
IIRC, the "record from any point in the buffer" functionality went away with the first iteration of the Hopper. ViP receivers work the way you describe, and since they aren't being updated, no new bugs have been introduced. ;)
 
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People I guess were too dumb to figure out how to record an entire event that had already started, so they dumbed it down and made it less flexible.
 
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I have been with Dish for over 20 years. Of all the electronics in our house, Dish easily has the buggiest software.
You obviously don't own a TiVo series 5 with Minis :) . Those are Even buggier than my dish hopper 3's. also from others I've spoken with and having used the device, the DirecTV genie with the new user interface is also buggier than Hopper 3.

believe it or not, as buggy as the Dish H3 is--and it is VERY BUGGIE-- it performs like a champ compared to the other devices. believe it or not, the Buggie, frustrating and annoying hopper three is actually the best-performing of the lot! that's not necessarily saying great things about Dish, just that I can't even watch my programming using my TiVo mini because one TiVo Romeo refuses to wake up, and the other Romeo has unstable playback that is totally unwatchable, and the same problem being reported with the latest generation TiVo Bolts as well. Ironically the very old Series 3 is the champ workhorse and works as it should.

in other words, it isn't greener on the other side, it is even worse. :) this has caused our standards to be lowered and thankful for the very buggie H3.
 
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You obviously don't own a TiVo series 5 with Minis :) . Those are Even buggier than my dish hopper 3's. also from others I've spoken with and having used the device, the DirecTV genie with the new user interface is also buggier than Hopper 3.

believe it or not, as buggy as the Dish H3 is--and it is VERY BUGGIE-- it performs like a champ compared to the other devices. believe it or not, the Buggie, frustrating and annoying hopper three is actually the best-performing of the lot! that's not necessarily saying great things about Dish, just that I can't even watch my programming using my TiVo mini because one TiVo Romeo refuses to wake up, and the other Romeo has unstable playback that is totally unwatchable, and the same problem being reported with the latest generation TiVo Bolts as well. Ironically the very old Series 3 is the champ workhorse and works as it should.

in other words, it isn't greener on the other side, it is even worse. :) this has caused our standards to be lowered and thankful for the very buggie H3.

Going on 6 six years with 5 Roamios and 5 minis and I’ve never had a single problem with any of them. There were some problems in the last year with minis running the new TiVo Experience 4 aka Hydra, but running TE3 they are rock solid.
 
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Hopper3 bugs are reported to be excessive by a very small sample of customers here and other forums. For the rest of us the Hopper3 is pretty much bug free. It is also nonsense to claim something that works as designed a bug.
 
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Currently running 3 Roamios, 2 OTA Bolts and one HD Tivo - all solid as a rock.

Just a couple of niggles with my H3, OTA breakups on Joey, guide glitches which are not software but crappy data from ROVI/TiVo. (I wonder if ROVI/TiVo is purposely sabotoging Dish guide data - just wonderin')
 
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Currently running 3 Roamios, 2 OTA Bolts and one HD Tivo - all solid as a rock.

Just a couple of niggles with my H3, OTA breakups on Joey, guide glitches which are not software but crappy data from ROVI/TiVo. (I wonder if ROVI/TiVo is purposely sabotoging Dish guide data - just wonderin')

I wouldn’t think so, as the guide data is their main business now
 
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Currently running 3 Roamios, 2 OTA Bolts and one HD Tivo - all solid as a rock.

Just a couple of niggles with my H3, OTA breakups on Joey, guide glitches which are not software but crappy data from ROVI/TiVo. (I wonder if ROVI/TiVo is purposely sabotoging Dish guide data - just wonderin')
Why attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence? (Paraphrasing a famous quote, I forget who said that originally.)
 
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