Now keep your useless comments to yourself if you can't help. Before making such comments you could of bothered to search my previous posts and then you might see I am what I say I am by the questions I've asked before. I may not be an old timer but been doing it 10 months, rank gold every month since eligible and top 5 from my office, every month./QUOTE]
If you would have mentioned in your opening question a little more information about why you wanted the info (like you did in your next comment), people probably wouldn't have gave you a hard time. People reading the thread aren't going to take the time to look back at your history of posts to figure out who you are, and why you need the info. You need to post that upfront.
Also, this probably would have had a better chance of positive results if you had posted it in the Installers Forum, as there may actually be a fellow installer there that has figure it out already.
Just a little constructive criticism.