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Last week before the North East’er rip through New Jersey, I went down to the bay to try and find Atlantic Bird 1 at 12.5º West. I found 30º West with no problem (nice salsa music and salsa dance contest on Cuba Vision.) I slide the dish over, and at the azimuth for Atlantic Bird 1, I did a blind scan and came up with a strong transponder that was id as Skylogic, a satellite Internet provider. The transponder was 11593/H/3504 and it scanned in 4 radio stations that had no audio. They were, AB1eu, AB1sa, IP-Roaming and PCR.

I could not find out any info at Lyngsat, or Skylogic’s website.

Has anyone ever seen an Internet transponder with a low symbol rate that scanned in as radio channels with labels?

The pictures of the find are attached; receiver is Fortec Dynamic, 500 Dish with a Universal Chaparral LNB.
 

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Last week before the North East’er rip through New Jersey, I went down to the bay to try and find Atlantic Bird 1 at 12.5º West. I found 30º West with no problem (nice salsa music and salsa dance contest on Cuba Vision.) I slide the dish over, and at the azimuth for Atlantic Bird 1, I did a blind scan and came up with a strong transponder that was id as Skylogic, a satellite Internet provider. The transponder was 11593/H/3504 and it scanned in 4 radio stations that had no audio. They were, AB1eu, AB1sa, IP-Roaming and PCR.

I could not find out any info at Lyngsat, or Skylogic’s website.

Has anyone ever seen an Internet transponder with a low symbol rate that scanned in as radio channels with labels?

The pictures of the find are attached; receiver is Fortec Dynamic, 500 Dish with a Universal Chaparral LNB.

I have attempted to scan a DN sat (72.7 or 77) with a Coolsat 5K and with a Fortec Dynamic and the channels there came in as radio channels when they were actually TV channels, so not the same scenario as you are reporting.

By the way, nice van, can I have it? :)

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I thought I tried it before but just tried the AzBox and it shows the strong
signal but will not scan in anything. The Fortec Dynamic scans in exactly
the same as you do (mikelib).
 

mikelib

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[quote=AcWxRadar;2021780]I have attempted to scan a DN sat (72.7 or 77) with a Coolsat 5K and with a Fortec Dynamic and the channels there came in as radio channels when they were actually TV channels, so not the same scenario as you are reporting.

By the way, nice van, can I have it?

RADAR[/quote]
Tnx Radar, I have the same 2 STB’s the Dynamic log’s data channel in the radio section as channel 2500 and/or 4400. I get the same problem on the Coolsat 5K when scanning 77W. I did managed to scan in one TV station and it is encrypted.

The Van was a retirement present to me, I was going to use it travel a lot, but it gets limited use. I use it to go and see the kids and grandkids down in Charlotte, NC.
I have a 2004 model on a 2003 Chevy 250 Express Chassis check it out:
http://www.roadtrek.com/models.aspx?ModelID=12&YearID=11&Country=USA

Cool Hobby!
Nice Pics. Thanks.
Adam12: Do you know if you can receive any signals from the Asia Satellites?

If the signal is MPEG4 most receivers (that handle MPEG2 only) will log those channels as radio
Iceberg: Tnx for the info, I do know that the transponder was ID as Sky logic and they do use Atlantic Bird 1 & 2 for satellite Internet service. If I was locked on to the correct satellite I should of received the North America spot beam that is listed in Lyngsat one of these days I am going to invest in a spectrum analyzer.

Great pictures Mike, a whole new side to FTA.
PedroGarcia: I find it interesting to take a small dish down by the bay to try to receive signal from the Atlantic Satellites. I have already received Atlantic Bird 2 at 8º west; it has one transponder spot beamed toward the east coast of North America. It has two Arabic Stations on it. Check the post:
http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/174503-atlantic-bird-2-a.html

I've picked up the same thing on my Fortec Dynamic here in Ohio.

I thought I tried it before but just tried the AzBox and it shows the strong
signal but will not scan in anything. The Fortec Dynamic scans in exactly
the same as you do (mikelib).
Hindu55: Kudos to you that has to be about 5º elevation for you, that sat is at 15º elevation for me and I have to go down by the bay as I have no LOS at home for that elevation. Thanks for confirming that you can receive that transponder.
 

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4.7 deg to be exact. It's the farthest east I can get. Caught a video feed on AB 1 yesterday late afternoon. That was a rarity.
Your right that is a rarity, when I go sat hunting some satellites only have feeds listed they are the hardest to find, you hope you’re lucky enough to catch a feed. Can you pass along the transponder info? I will put it in my receiver, if the weather gets a little warmer next week I would like to give AB 1 & 2 a try again.


Try this sat NSS 7at 22º West, around 8 to 9 pm EST:
12035/H/2893 NNL-70168
12040/H/2893 NSL-70095
My best satellite DX was off of this sat during the summer, I locked in Reuters WNS on 12002/V/4000 it is encrypted, but the audio was on saying Reuters World News Service. If you check Lyngsat you see that the transponder is listed as Caribbean & Andean spot beam. The signal quality was not strong but it was enough to scan in to the Fortec Dynamic.
 

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Intelsat 8 at 166.0 E 3940H 2.4 m on hilltop. You planning a trip?
10-04 1Adam12 - I checked out the ku side of that sat, the Australia beam looks doable, hum! a trip to west coast to do sat hunting sounds good. I'm almost tempted to do it.

How did you get the map into the post? A couple time I wanted to do that but did not know the right buttons to push. Over and out Mikelib.
 

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Your right that is a rarity, when I go sat hunting some satellites only have feeds listed they are the hardest to find, you hope you’re lucky enough to catch a feed. Can you pass along the transponder info? I will put it in my receiver, if the weather gets a little warmer next week I would like to give AB 1 & 2 a try again.

Try this sat NSS 7at 22º West, around 8 to 9 pm EST:
12035/H/2893 NNL-70168
12040/H/2893 NSL-70095
My best satellite DX was off of this sat during the summer, I locked in Reuters WNS on 12002/V/4000 it is encrypted, but the audio was on saying Reuters World News Service. If you check Lyngsat you see that the transponder is listed as Caribbean & Andean spot beam. The signal quality was not strong but it was enough to scan in to the Fortec Dynamic.

The feed on ab 1 was on 11587/H/3215 and scanned in as SNG 2 SAT 1
I also have caught the NSS 7 feeds on 12035 and 12040 and I also once
caught the Reuters signal this summer. Signal was very up and down.
Made me wonder if the Sat just had some temporary stability problems
and allowed the beam to squeak North a bit. Have not caught it since.
 

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The feed on ab 1 was on 11587/H/3215 and scanned in as SNG 2 SAT 1
I also have caught the NSS 7 feeds on 12035 and 12040 and I also once
caught the Reuters signal this summer. Signal was very up and down.
Made me wonder if the Sat just had some temporary stability problems
and allowed the beam to squeak North a bit. Have not caught it since.
You must have a good LOS to the south east, what is your opinion of the NSS7 feeds? Where do you think they orginated from?
 

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You must have a good LOS to the south east, what is your opinion of the NSS7 feeds? Where do you think they orginated from?

Well we are in flat farm land here and I'm on the east side of the Village
(County Seat - Pop about 3500). Across the street is a single story house
then about 1/4 mile of field before any trees. Was going to try AB 2 but
the house across the street is in the way. I was thinking over in the
middle east somewhere on the NSS 7 feeds.
 

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Well we are in flat farm land here and I'm on the east side of the Village
(County Seat - Pop about 3500). Across the street is a single story house
then about 1/4 mile of field before any trees. Was going to try AB 2 but
the house across the street is in the way. I was thinking over in the
middle east somewhere on the NSS 7 feeds.
Your right about the NSS 7, one day I caught them playing a video they made that pinpointed the area, another time they left a camera on in a office with had a map on the wall and a medallion that was easily recognizable. Talk about loose lips…

On AB2 there is one transponder with 2 TV stations on it both are in Arabic. I managed to lock them in at the bay one day with a DTV 18x20 dish. The SQ was enough for a lock with occasional pixalation. In retrospect I wonder who the target audience is in North America, as the stations look like they originate from some Arabic North African country.
 

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... If I was locked on to the correct satellite I should of received the North America spot beam that is listed in Lyngsat one of these days I am going to invest in a spectrum analyzer. ...

If you like BLSA type [PCI card spectrum analyzer] you always can find it - my offer still open for anyone who want it.
 

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mikelib; [COLOR=#555a5f said:
On AB2 there is one transponder with 2 TV stations on it both are in Arabic. I managed to lock them in at the bay one day with a DTV 18x20 dish. The SQ was enough for a lock with occasional pixalation. In retrospect I wonder who the target audience is in North America, as the stations look like they originate from some Arabic North African country. [/COLOR]

They are Lebanon based channels, very liberal and modern western in its programming. .
 

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If you like BLSA type [PCI card spectrum analyzer] you always can find it - my offer still open for anyone who want it.
Thanks for the offer, I was looking for something that is portable and you can carry it outside.

They are Lebanon based channels, very liberal and modern western in its programming. .
Thanks for the info I always wonder who would be watching those channels so they are Middle Eastern. I guessed North Africa, I was wrong.

I meet a Lebanon refugee; he was making pizza in North NJ. He had a real interesting story on why he left Lebanon.


 
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