Excuse me..., I have been in the industry for nearly 20 years and probably know more about home Satellite & Home theater than you ever will. I looked through your posts, you seem to be pulling everything you know from what you can see of you own personal system.
I know about D*s 1 coax to 2 tuner technology, but the last I heard it was VERY expensive and not feasible in a normal home installation. From what I can find online now, it is still hard to come buy and not cheap or free yet.
You do not need more than 1 line for any of the twin tuner 2TV E* receivers (622, 722, etc). With a "diplexor" and "separator", parts we have been using for ~3 years, you can do the work of 3 lines with one.
I was the top sat. installer for the biggest custom HT company in SW Washington State, until I was hired away by a small local, "satellite only" co. in 2002, When the custom HT Co. need satellite work done they contract with my company to do the installs working with their HT specialists.
You may not agree with my opinion on the HD situation between D* & E* but don't question my knowledge on the install side.
Brad
I'm sure you know more about sats than I do. Perhaps you failed to read my posts properly because I never claimed to be an all knowing God of sat.
How many people in the company you work for know or even care about what they are doing? You failed to understand my point. Most installers don't care what happens one way or another and are flat out lazy. It was different when you could use your own installer and make sure you got a good one. HT custom shops usually have great installers, you should know you worked for one!
You really are taking these comments way too personally.
As far as the E* only needs one line reply, you really should read what I said carefully because you said exactly what I did. There is one line going in and when you reach that nifty 622 or w/e it is you have thats TWO tuners they split that single line into two cables that go into that unit. Once again we said the same thing! Now if you mean that you can connect two separate TVs with one line from a 622 then thats something I would like to see! Unless my 622 was different from everyone else's once the sat inputs were plugged in a coax line went to the other TV.
As for the rest of what you said in the original post, I don't agree with it at all. E* WAS great for HD but then they went and downrezzed. You may not care about that and maybe what matters to you is how many channels say HD. I on the other hand primarily care about PQ and currently D* has much better PQ than E*. Their DVR is not crap and actually has some nice features that E* does not and vice versa. Both units have their benefits and disadvantages, but neither is crap. You obviously have a preference for E* and thats great, good for you! I on the other hand have a preference for who gives me the best PQ. Currently with what is available to me thats D*, should that change I will leave and go to the company that provides what I want. Its that simple. Here in Miami E* is a rare and I do mean rare site. You could walk a 1 mile radius and see the difference. I did it this morning when I walked my dogs. In total out of every house that had sat and apartment complexes there were a total of 7 E* dishes compared to 73 D* dishes. Most were three LNB dishes from D* and for E* most were Dish 500. I did not see any pointing to 61.5. In this an accurate representation? By no means is it, but neither is your comment.
You may not agree with my comments and thats fine, but that won't make me change what I said. Most installers are not good at what they do or a better way of putting it may be, they don't want to do their job. Perhaps its because they are underpaid. Very rarely do you see here or on any other forum someone saying how their installer did a good job. Are there good installers? Yes there are, but not many.
From the day D* stopped allowing anyone to install their units, I have had nothing but problems with installers. The same goes when I switched to E*, but thankfully when I moved back to D* it wasn't as bad. Alas don't worry installers aren't the worst thing in sat. business, that title goes to E* outsourced customer service!
I'm sure your a good installer, but your market isn't the only one and neither is mine. Those new slimline dishes are available in certain markets from what I have read so depending on the market that may be an option for an individual who wants a one line solution.
