The Acolyte - Disney+

[KAB]

When will Disney learn?

And when will the critics (84%)?

 

[fmj77]

And when will the critics (84%)?

Critics eat up anything that's woke.

 

[TRG]

Critics eat up anything that's woke.

Therin lies the problem and the reason why I don't listen to them.

 

[meStevo]

Critics can at least be put into context. The context for user reviews as usual is they're a gross exaggeration of outrage over representation and various social causes and movements.

As usual, people tell on themselves when they show what they side they lean into.

From a storytelling and structure of the episode standpoint, this was a weak episode. The witches, the coven, the cast - which is what many who won't even bother to watch the show are spasming about, largely don't bother me. Tell a good story and none of it will matter. Some can't get past the representation of some lifestyles or the color of people's skin though regardless. Gives people an excuse to hate.

 

[TRG]

Critics can at least be put into context. The context for user reviews as usual is they're a gross exaggeration of outrage over representation and various social causes and movements.

As usual, people tell on themselves when they show what they side they lean into.

From a storytelling and structure of the episode standpoint, this was a weak episode. The witches, the coven, the cast - which is what many who won't even bother to watch the show are spasming about, largely don't bother me. Tell a good story and none of it will matter. Some can't get past the representation of some lifestyles or the color of people's skin though regardless. Gives people an excuse to hate.

The show failed on its own merit or lack thereof. No need to pull the race card.

 

[meStevo]

The show failed on its own merit or lack thereof. No need to pull the race card.

All you're doing is proving the point I made.

 

[Ronnie-]

There is absolutely no need to take this in the direction it is going.

If you want to discuss some topics, there is a section for it.

This in fact is not it.

 

[TRG]

All you're doing is proving the point I made.

Actually what I did was prove "your point" was a joke. But whatever, I feel like you are baiting me at this point. That goes against SatelliteGuys rules and I'm not biting. Go troll someone else.

If you liked The Acolyte that's cool. Just dont force your acceptance of a subpar production as some made up "...ism" if they disagree. That isn't advancing your point in the least. In fact, quite the contrary.

 

[fmj77]

Critics can at least be put into context. The context for user reviews as usual is they're a gross exaggeration of outrage over representation and various social causes and movements.

As usual, people tell on themselves when they show what they side they lean into.

From a storytelling and structure of the episode standpoint, this was a weak episode. The witches, the coven, the cast - which is what many who won't even bother to watch the show are spasming about, largely don't bother me. Tell a good story and none of it will matter. Some can't get past the representation of some lifestyles or the color of people's skin though regardless. Gives people an excuse to hate.

Nah. Star Trek TNG was quite progressive but it was done the right way with excellent writing and storylines. The Acolyte is neither.

 

[savarese04]

Down to 14% now.

it's being review bombed though. this is the problem with the internet. if the show sucks, that's fine! review it that it sucks AFTER WATCHING IT. there's no need to review bomb it sight unseen because you think its "woke" or whatever fake grievance of the day that you have. these bombers are also so dumb they're bombing a 2000s movie by the same name, which tells you all you need to know.

Honestly, Star Wars fans are the most toxic fanbase hands down. so much unnecessary gate keeping and mob mentality.

I watched the first two eps the other day and i'll say it's FINE. it's probably on par with boba fett for me thus far. The biggest two problems are that the main actress is absolutely cardboard terrible as Osha (but pretty good as Mae - what's up with that?) and the pacing needs some serious work.

 

[TRG]

it's being review bombed though. this is the problem with the internet. if the show sucks, that's fine! review it that it sucks AFTER WATCHING IT. there's no need to review bomb it sight unseen because you think its "woke" or whatever fake grievance of the day that you have. these bombers are also so dumb they're bombing a 2000s movie by the same name, which tells you all you need to know.

Honestly, Star Wars fans are the most toxic fanbase hands down. so much unnecessary gate keeping and mob mentality.

I watched the first two eps the other day and i'll say it's FINE. it's probably on par with boba fett for me thus far. The biggest two problems are that the main actress is absolutely cardboard terrible as Osha (but pretty good as Mae - what's up with that?) and the pacing needs some serious work.

What makes you think the bad reviews are from people that didn't watch the series? Most of the people I know really wanted to like it. But it just sucked.

I'd be interested in hearing what George Lucas thinks about the direction the SW series has taken after Disney put their spin on it.

 

[meStevo]

Moving back to the episodes for those here to actually discuss the series. Wow, that ep. 4 ending. Kinda wonder if most would have moved past the problems with episode 3 if we had the ending of episode 4 to focus on. Think it would have been in a better place if they released ep 1-2 and then released 3-4.

Spoiler

Kinda figured we'd either see this or something like it while on this planet, with the number of 'red shirt' jedi they brought along with them. Was almost silly really. My biggest issue, among others, is if the wookie is dead why didn't anyone 'feel it' they way they do when a Jedi passes?

Seems pretty clear and not as much of a reach as other things that her hidden master will be the guy who's been assisting her the whole time. Just a matter of them connecting the dots. If not him, then one of her moms.

If the show wasn't relatively short, I feel like we'd see more of this conflict with the Jedi council hashed lot a little more. As-is it feels largely unnecessary and abbreviated and could have just been handled via a brief communication with Sol. Seems like some conflict and/or corruption there as they try and handle this in house without telling the Republic.

This ending is the perfect spot to now show us the events of episode 3 from the other side next week before continuing on.

 

[mackie99]

Moving back to the episodes for those here to actually discuss the series. Wow, that ep. 4 ending. Kinda wonder if most would have moved past the problems with episode 3 if we had the ending of episode 4 to focus on. Think it would have been in a better place if they released ep 1-2 and then released 3-4.

Spoiler

Kinda figured we'd either see this or something like it while on this planet, with the number of 'red shirt' jedi they brought along with them. Was almost silly really. My biggest issue, among others, is if the wookie is dead why didn't anyone 'feel it' they way they do when a Jedi passes?

Seems pretty clear and not as much of a reach as other things that her hidden master will be the guy who's been assisting her the whole time. Just a matter of them connecting the dots. If not him, then one of her moms.

If the show wasn't relatively short, I feel like we'd see more of this conflict with the Jedi council hashed lot a little more. As-is it feels largely unnecessary and abbreviated and could have just been handled via a brief communication with Sol. Seems like some conflict and/or corruption there as they try and handle this in house without telling the Republic.

This ending is the perfect spot to now show us the events of episode 3 from the other side next week before continuing on.

I thought the same thing about "guy who's been assisting".

 

[Teehar]

And when will the critics (84%)?

Honestly,I get the feeling they are on the payroll of some of these companies.

 

[Jim S.]

They named the rat Basil?

(He's from Barcelona, we're training him. Would be quicker to train an ape!)

 

[Foxbat]

Maybe they Disney listened to this and took notes…

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[meStevo]

 

[Foxbat]

As a plot device, the "Flashback of Major Nexus from Multiple Characters PoV" gets overused by modern writers. As the surviving Jedi, this time it was Sol's turn.

I'm still watching, and in the back of my mind is how this show will somehow kickstart the Sith and the Palpatine bloodline.

 

[mackie99]

So, are we getting a season 2? If not, what was the point of this show?

Spoiler

Nice to see Yoda. Was that Plagueis in the shadows?

 

[meStevo]

Yes, it was.

In the end the show was kind of a meandering mess. Needed about 1/3 of the plot removed and a lot of the rest shuffled around a bit to be more coherent.