The end of Directv

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Although we don’t sell Directv residential anymore, apparently they are rolling out a new compensation plan for dealers.

If your customer is located in the country, you can sell Directv and get paid regular commissions.

If your customer is in the city, they want us to push AT&T Tv.

The good news is AT&T Tv pays the same as a regular Directv sale. However if your in the city and sell a traditional Directv system, then your commission is reduced almost 60%.

But this is the writing on the wall. They are basically telling the dealers to sell AT&T Tv and not to sell Directv unless you absolutely have to.

They say that AT&T will determine what addresses are in the country and what addresses are considered in the city.

Likely the determination is going to be what areas can get a minimum 25 megs AT&T internet service.

I’m so glad I switched my business model to selling Directv commercial and cable such as Comcast and Spectrum. I could never survive today just relying on crappy Dish and Directv residential alone. The whole industry is literally going down the toilet
 
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Does this seem to fit the ATT 5yr plan for Directv from about 3yrs ago to deliver all content via broadband and pull the plug on satellites? Oh, God forbid somebody might have been right on this one......

Although we don’t sell Directv residential anymore, apparently they are rolling out a new compensation plan for dealers.

If your customer is located in the country, you can sell Directv and get paid regular commissions.

If your customer is in the city, they want us to push AT&T Tv.

The good news is AT&T Tv pays the same as a regular Directv sale. However if your in the city and sell a traditional Directv system, then your commission is reduced almost 60%.

But this is the writing on the wall. They are basically telling the dealers to sell AT&T Tv and not to sell Directv unless you absolutely have to.

They say that AT&T will determine what addresses are in the country and what addresses are considered in the city.

Likely the determination is going to be what areas can get a minimum 25 megs AT&T internet service.

I’m so glad I switched my business model to selling Directv commercial and cable such as Comcast and Spectrum. I could never survive today just relying on crappy Dish and Directv residential alone. The whole industry is literally going down the toilet
 
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Does this seem to fit the ATT 5yr plan for Directv from about 3yrs ago to deliver all content via broadband and pull the plug on satellites? Oh, God forbid somebody might have been right on this one......
i read there gonna stop promoting uverse tv as well. you would figure that would be cheaper to run than DTV. i can see keeping DTV for rual areas and maybe for people with data caps with there ISP'S
 

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Although we don’t sell Directv residential anymore, apparently they are rolling out a new compensation plan for dealers.

If your customer is located in the country, you can sell Directv and get paid regular commissions.

If your customer is in the city, they want us to push AT&T Tv.

The good news is AT&T Tv pays the same as a regular Directv sale. However if your in the city and sell a traditional Directv system, then your commission is reduced almost 60%.

But this is the writing on the wall. They are basically telling the dealers to sell AT&T Tv and not to sell Directv unless you absolutely have to.

They say that AT&T will determine what addresses are in the country and what addresses are considered in the city.

Likely the determination is going to be what areas can get a minimum 25 megs AT&T internet service.

I’m so glad I switched my business model to selling Directv commercial and cable such as Comcast and Spectrum. I could never survive today just relying on crappy Dish and Directv residential alone. The whole industry is literally going down the toilet
i called them today for a service call. and the first thing the rep did was shove ATT tv down my throat!!! i lied to him and told him i had data caps with my ISP. but then i was like if they wanted to pay for the overages :rolleyes . well that stopped that sale right there:D. and if there thinking that some people will be able to stream on 25 MBPS there crazy. there are some of us that have multible devices in our homes and require atleast a 500 MBPS conn o_O
 

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Interesting I came here to post because my neighbor told me tonight Direct tv gave him a hard time to come out and fix his system. They asked if he ever streams tv shows and said he wasn't interested but they persisted but in a nice way... he kept saying he was not interested in any of that just wants his satellite fixed. They are coming out Tuesday but he may cancel service and go with DISH or just go with Spectrum and be done with the dish and equipment. He no longer cares so much about Sunday Ticket and that was the biggest reason he went with Direct Tv anyway...
 

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Netflix 4K streams at about 16 Mbps
i called them today for a service call. and the first thing the rep did was shove ATT tv down my throat!!! i lied to him and told him i had data caps with my ISP. but then i was like if they wanted to pay for the overages :rolleyes . well that stopped that sale right there:D. and if there thinking that some people will be able to stream on 25 MBPS there crazy. there are some of us that have multible devices in our homes and require atleast a 500 MBPS conn o_O
That's a bit of an over-exaggeration. Supposedly Netflix 4K is about 16 Mbps, which would mean 1080p is 4 - 5 Mbps. So on a 25 Mb connection, a family of 4 could stream in 1080p comfortably.
 

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i read there gonna stop promoting uverse tv as well. you would figure that would be cheaper to run than DTV. i can see keeping DTV for rual areas and maybe for people with data caps with there ISP'S
They already stopped uverse Tv sales.

Really ATT tv is no different than uverse Tv. Only difference is your streaming over public internet instead of on ATT’s PRivate Network.
 
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Interesting I came here to post because my neighbor told me tonight Direct tv gave him a hard time to come out and fix his system. They asked if he ever streams tv shows and said he wasn't interested but they persisted but in a nice way... he kept saying he was not interested in any of that just wants his satellite fixed. They are coming out Tuesday but he may cancel service and go with DISH or just go with Spectrum and be done with the dish and equipment. He no longer cares so much about Sunday Ticket and that was the biggest reason he went with Direct Tv anyway...
i had the same thing happen to me when i called em yesturday for a service call. though the rep had no problems with sending someone out.. but i was grilled about if i stream my t.v. she gave me the whole rundown on ATT T.V. . i told her that DTV comes out cheaper than ATT T.V. and that i refused to sign a contract for a streaming service.. i think there afraid of loosing all of the subs from DTV
 

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Netflix 4K streams at about 16 Mbps


That's a bit of an over-exaggeration. Supposedly Netflix 4K is about 16 Mbps, which would mean 1080p is 4 - 5 Mbps. So on a 25 Mb connection, a family of 4 could stream in 1080p comfortably.
when you have 2 gaming rigs in your home. as well as 10 more pc's because your renting out space in your home for future real estate agents and there's alot of uploading going on that kills a conn... not to mention more than one smart t.v. i know theres people out there that stream on every set in there home..
 

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when you have 2 gaming rigs in your home. as well as 10 more pc's because your renting out space in your home for future real estate agents and there's alot of uploading going on that kills a conn... not to mention more than one smart t.v. i know theres people out there that stream on every set in there home..
Yup, sounds like the typical Comcast internet essentials customer trying to run everything on a 25 meg connection because they only want to pay $9.99/mo
 
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i had the same thing happen to me when i called em yesturday for a service call. though the rep had no problems with sending someone out.. but i was grilled about if i stream my t.v. she gave me the whole rundown on ATT T.V. . i told her that DTV comes out cheaper than ATT T.V. and that i refused to sign a contract for a streaming service.. i think there afraid of loosing all of the subs from DTV
I wouldn’t sign a contract for a streaming service either.

But the fact that they supply the set top box with their service, I doubt very few customers over the age of 60 realize they are on a streaming service.

They turn the box on, it asks for their WiFi password and they don’t even realize they are streaming.

That’s the biggest issue we had selling Directv now with older folks. We would sign them up, and the next thing they would ask “where do we pick up the equipment” not getting the concept they needed to download an app or it required a streaming player such as a Roku.

The fact they are providing set top boxes, makes them get away with requiring a 2 year agreement with the prices going up in year 2.

When is AT&T going to realize their whole issue is the 2 year agreement with the price going up in year 2?

The smart customers refuse to sign this type of contract. It’s only the deadbeats who owe every other cable or satellite company money who will agree to this because they can’t get anything else.

And they wonder why they have a churn issue?
 
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That is far from a typical situation. And online gaming doesn't really that much bandwidth, it's more about latency. As for renting out for business use, those computers and all related equipment should be on their own separate network, with WAN access powered by a business class internet connection behind a decent firewall. I stand by my comment that a 25 Mb connection is good enough for four simultaneous streams of 1080p content on Netflix.
 

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That is far from a typical situation. And online gaming doesn't really that much bandwidth, it's more about latency. As for renting out for business use, those computers and all related equipment should be on their own separate network, with WAN access powered by a business class internet connection behind a decent firewall. I stand by my comment that a 25 Mb connection is good enough for four simultaneous streams of 1080p content on Netflix.
Business class internet is no different than a residential connection.

Only difference is that you pay a higher monthly cost, likely have no data caps, and they provide a SLA, meaning if your service goes down they will come fix it often within a few hours.

I have fiber at work, they come same Day
 

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It depends on the provider.

With Charter, business class is required to have a static IP, it's against the TOS to host a server, they don't have caps so that's not relevant, there is no SLA on DOCSIS only on fiber. Bottom line is if I was using a connection for business use most of the time, I would do the right thing and get business service. Having better support and/or a faster response time for trouble tickets should be enough of a reason to pay extra for business service if your livelihood depends on it.
 

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It depends on the provider.

With Charter, business class is required to have a static IP, it's against the TOS to host a server, they don't have caps so that's not relevant, there is no SLA on DOCSIS only on fiber. Bottom line is if I was using a connection for business use most of the time, I would do the right thing and get business service. Having better support and/or a faster response time for trouble tickets should be enough of a reason to pay extra for business service if your livelihood depends on it.
I got (1) 100 meg fiber, (1) 10 meg fiber, (1) 30 meg wireless backup and a 25 meg cable internet connection at work.

The 100 meg fiber works with the wireless backup. The ip addresses switch over with the wireless, so it’s a true fail over.

The 10 meg fiber I got from AT&T when we got an ip flex circuit. And the Comcast 25 meg in just waiting for the contract to expire.

I agree and have no issues paying for a business class service as we can’t afford to go down.

I actually get a decent response time with the Comcast coax. They don’t require a static ip, but it’s always good to have one.

If I was running a business from home, I think I would rather do 2 residential internet services before going to business service.
 

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when you have 2 gaming rigs in your home. as well as 10 more pc's because your renting out space in your home for future real estate agents and there's alot of uploading going on that kills a conn... not to mention more than one smart t.v. i know theres people out there that stream on every set in there home..
Sounda like you need a 1gig internet connection
 
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