Do you know what a roku or fire stick is?... sounds like you only know how to stream from a desk top
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Do you know what a roku or fire stick is?... sounds like you only know how to stream from a desk topNo, it is not.I did a VPN into my workplace and configured my 0.0.0.0 traffic to go through the VPN tunnel and none of my ads changed. Just to put a nail in the coffin of your argument, I confirmed that the Internet IP address that I was identified as having was my workplace firewall IP address and not my home firewall IP address. I would also point out that where Google maps defaulted to on my VPN connection was 50 miles away because the IP address is geolocated there (work is 9 airline miles from me but still 50 miles from its geolocation). IP addresses are pretty much useless outside of geolocation purposes and they aren't always very good at that.
If IP addresses were the key, everyone in the house (or my office campus) would see the same ads because we all share a common IP address but that's not the case. IPv6 doesn't change any of that (yet).
If I log in to Netflix or Amazon Prime, I'm presented with my watch list because Netflix and Amazon Prime associate those lists with my login, not my IP address. If I browse the Internet from different computers/devices I get different ads because each computer/device has a different set of cookies.
You should test your theories before you proclaim them as irrefutable evidence.
If you don't think cookies have any influence on your web experience, try firing up a browser that you don't use, clear all of its cookies and set out on an entirely new view of the web.
I have and use both (though I use the Roku a lot more). Using either doesn't seem to impact my web browsing experience.Do you know what a roku or fire stick is?
No, but since viewer-targeted ads aren't a thing with Roku (other than e-mails with suggestions from the streaming services themselves), I wonder how you figure that I can learn that I'm being tracked by Comcast.sounds like you only know how to stream from a desk top
Maybe you should take some time and experiment with a firetv and a VPN...you might be amazed at what you can do..Not all VPNs are the same...you want one that can fool netflix.. meaning you don't get a Netflix error saying stream cant play because you are using a VPNI have and use both (though I use the Roku a lot more). Using either doesn't seem to impact my web browsing experience.No, but since viewer-targeted ads aren't a thing with Roku (other than e-mails with suggestions from the streaming services themselves), I wonder how you figure that I can learn that I'm being tracked by Comcast.
Remind me again how any of what you said supports your contention that one's broadband provider can gather and sell marketing information about you.
What does this have to do with my broadband provider making money selling marketing information about me?Maybe you should take some time and experiment with a firetv and a VPN...you might be amazed at what you can do..
Here ya goWhat does this have to do with my broadband provider making money selling marketing information about me?
I claim that they can't track my viewing habits now and adding VPN (or any other form of obfuscation) to the picture isn't going to reduce that.
VPN has two applications:
Data privacy is already handled by HTTPS so the rest is just a lie about your geolocation and that's something that isn't really marketable whether or not it is accurate. From the marketing perspective, VPN only foils those who are paying to advertise their products to people living in the area of your Internet IP address. With VPN you'll see general (as opposed to targeted) advertising aimed at the geolocation of your VPN service. In the end, what you're streaming still isn't known whether you use VPN or not.
- data privacy where encryption isn't already in play
- to lie about where you're located.
Any tracking of your personal traffic is handled through cookies.
The article notes that the ISPs will not use this capability. It suggests that the ISPs would have to set up a "man-in-the-middle" situation as I suggested earlier.
This is a result of an advertising device used here at Satellite Guys called Viglink. It can be very intrusive.I get a kind of funny result clicking the link posted above. At least, I think it's funny.
https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_155231490383531&key=75e6a59ec8cc421e360c4b7d2e7e5937&libId=jt4ffu3n010004jw000DA170zl380bp5rg&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.satelliteguys.us%2Fxen%2Fthreads%2Fthe-future-of-cable-may-be-no-tv-at-all.381129%2F%23post-4344551&v=1&opt=true&out=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Ftech%2Fnews%2F2017%2F04%2F04%2Fisps-can-now-collect-and-sell-your-data-what-know-internet-privacy%2F100015356%2F&title=The%20future%20of%20cable%20may%20be%20no%20TV%20at%20all%20%7C%20SatelliteGuys.US&txt=ISPs%20can%20now%20collect%20and%20sell%20your%20data%3A%20What%20to%20know%20about%20Internet%20privacy%20rulesThey control the router you connect to...I " hope" you understand they can see your browsing history from there..if they know your ip addressThe article notes that the ISPs will not use this capability. It suggests that the ISPs would have to set up a "man-in-the-middle" situation as I suggested earlier.
Later in the article it introduces Google and Facebook under the larger class of "companies" and they aren't ISPs -- a trick you've tried more than once.
The article doesn't really support the argument you're trying to make.
Your ISP probably doen't control the router in your home. Any metrics they need usually come from the modem.They control the router you connect to...I " hope" you understand they can see your browsing history from there..if they know your ip address
Not about your home...the "gateway " router that all their customers routers connect toYour ISP probably doen't control the router in your home. Any metrics they need usually come from the modem.
Most everything between your computer/device and the destination on the Internet is kept private by HTTPS. You can't monitor to contents of the packets from your router unless you're using specialized proxy software on the router. Sure, the router knows where you're going to in terms of IP addresses but it doesn't have any idea what you're doing there and that's the key to blowing up your argument.
They control the router you connect to...I " hope" you understand they can see your browsing history from there..if they know your ip address
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I use a VPN to avoid thatThey only know the DNS queries you make, not the content you watch within a streaming app or encrypted website...aside from http URLs. They might get the odd https URL, but modern browsers should setup the SSL/TLS negotiation before making material URL requests.
I know AT&T scapes as much as they can from my use of my home Internet connection, but it is mostly DNS queries from what I know as there are so many ways to encode URLs that it becomes impossible to be able to interpret all of them and not cost efficient to spend the CPU time to figure out what trillions of URLs a day actually translate to, at least not yet.
I use a VPN to avoid that
Along with tools like thisSo, it is only the people at the other end of the VPN you have to worry about then. You have place-shifted the potential monitoring of your usage.
These are spiders/robots for website crawling. They don't monitor anyone's web traffic.Along with tools like this
How We Do Data Harvesting - BrightPlanet
You still don't understand...with 5g nobody cares what website you view...the focus is on using the web versus surfing the web..you will have dozens of devices that will stream data content acriss the web...it could be a refrigerator that orders food or requests maintenance...the ISP will be able to identify how many streams you have and where they are going...once they know what products you like and use ( with data mining) they will sell that info to advertisers who will send targeted ads to your smart tv that only you can seeThese are spiders/robots for website crawling. They don't monitor anyone's web traffic.
These are the people you would hire to find out if your private information or intellectual property (copyrighted text or music for example) appears somewhere on the Internet.
You still don't understand...with 5g nobody cares what website you view...the focus is on using the web versus surfing the web..you will have dozens of devices that will stream data content acriss the web...it could be a refrigerator that orders food or requests maintenance...the ISP will be able to identify how many streams you have and where they are going...once they know what products you like and use ( with data mining) they will sell that info to advertisers who will send targeted ads to your smart tv that only you can see
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It is you that clearly isn't getting it.You still don't understand..
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