Tribune Broadcasting Company Blacks Out DISH Customers in 33 Markets;

[Joe Capitano]

There is no dispute DISH has had that lasted 6 Months or even close.

Remember what I called "Fish v dish" just before the HD switchover? That one between Fisher Communications (now defunct) and dish lasted nearly six months and got quite testy on the Fisher side at times (sound familiar?). I should know. One of the Fisher stations was KOMO Seattle. Those stations all were acquired by Sinclair a couple of years later so we didn't escape their recent kerfuffle, either.

One more thing...

Looks like it's owned by "Tegna, INC" - I don't see anything about Tribune.

Tribune owns KCPQ (FOX) and KZJO (MY) in the Seattle market, and we all know what's running in place of those for the forseeable future.

 

[pamajestic]

So, are we on our own if for example my local NBC is blacked out, and dish sent me the free antenna, but it can't pull anything at all in because i'm 65 miles from all local networks. Also, i'm so far in the country that i have very slow dsl (around 1 mb/sec or so) which totally sucks for trying to stream video. Dish mentions online to go to nbc's website to watch the shows that are missed at night, but that's not feasible for us. Has anyone had any luck of them coming out and installing a bigger OTA antenna so that the local's will come in? I'd rather not have to do that, but darnit, there are shows i'm missing nightly!!! I won't switch from Dish, but when paying nearly $200/month, i expect more!

Go to Tvfool.com and run a report for your exact location and post the link here or start a new thread in OTA section. A generic report for Osceola shows line of sight and a good signal.

The antenna Dish sent you is not suitable for your NBC. Your NBC is on channel 13.

 

[niceguypmp3]

Here is the link from tvfool.com for my exact location; http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=e2cbc1b0bed8b0

 

[xfoneguy]

Remember what I called "Fish v dish" just before the HD switchover? That one between Fisher Communications (now defunct) and dish lasted nearly six months and got quite testy on the Fisher side at times (sound familiar?). I should know. One of the Fisher stations was KOMO Seattle. Those stations all were acquired by Sinclair a couple of years later so we didn't escape their recent kerfuffle, either.

One more thing...


Tribune owns KCPQ (FOX) and KZJO (MY) in the Seattle market, and we all know what's running in place of those for the forseeable future.

yep - definitely time for me to start researching antennas.

 

[xfoneguy]

I just realized that I have (had now!) 35 - 1/2 hr and 1 hour recordings of repeating "propaganda" recordings in my PrimeTime folder from out local FOX channel.. Duh! I'm not even sure how that many recordings could stack up there.

 

[AIsmail]

I just realized that I have (had now!) 35 - 1/2 hr and 1 hour recordings of repeating "propaganda" recordings in my PrimeTime folder from out local FOX channel.. Duh! I'm not even sure how that many recordings could stack up there.

Lol, you poor poor person.

 

[dare2be]

WTF?

 

[pamajestic]

Here is the link from tvfool.com for my exact location; http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id=e2cbc1b0bed8b0

No doubt you are deep fringe, but based on your report you do have a chance if you want to give it a try. I recommend the Stellar Labs 30-2476 from MCM electronics mounted outside above the roofline.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2476

 

[xfoneguy]

No doubt you are deep fringe, but based on your report you do have a chance if you want to give it a try. I recommend the Stellar Labs 30-2476 from MCM electronics mounted outside above the roofline.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2476

No doubt you are deep fringe, but based on your report you do have a chance if you want to give it a try. I recommend the Stellar Labs 30-2476 from MCM electronics mounted outside above the roofline.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2476

thanks for the recommendation - I am going to take your suggestion and give it a shot. I've been thinking about this for quite some time now. I've been wanting to check out the other locals that I've never had access to with satellite. I guess this is just what I needed to push me over the edge. Also, I didn't realize how inexpensively priced these things were.

 

[xfoneguy]

No doubt you are deep fringe, but based on your report you do have a chance if you want to give it a try. I recommend the Stellar Labs 30-2476 from MCM electronics mounted outside above the roofline.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2476

one other question if you don't mind...... our FOX affiliate is a UHF station (ch.22) - any suggestions for an antenna? Also, I haven't used a roof-top antenna in so many years, I can't remember - can the VHF & UHF elements be mounted on the same mast?

 

[Tampa8]

WTF?

Everyone likes 35 1/2 hours of repeating the same dispute information. You don't?

 

[xfoneguy]

Everyone likes 35 1/2 hours of repeating the same dispute information. You don't?

actually I'm thinking of copying it to my HopperGO..............

 

[Dished Off]

I now have OTA guide data for the DVR with Tribune's WNEP so for the most part I am now a happy customer.

Still waiting for the superstations though they were only available in SD anyway. I was able to ask for a refund without having to cancel them and worry about never getting them turned back on due to Dish's self imposed 'bridge of no return' policy. I plan to ask for it again at the end of this month should the dispute carry on into August.

I rarely watched WGN America and even less so since they removed the nightly prime time simulcasts of WGN News. Its just another boring channel now with just a small handful of origonal series. I can live without it since if there is breaking news in Chicago, WGN America is not going to show it anyway. Plus I did hear that WGN Chicago (The Local Version) will be losing its CW Affiliation, I think in September.

Perhaps other Tribune stations will follow if people start petitioning their respective networks should this dispute carry over to other satellite / cable providers also having to black them out.

Forced bundling is an issue and should not fit the definition of 'good faith' requirement that the FCC promotes. This should be challenged via the FCC and not through arbitration. Dish should take this up directly with the FCC and on capital hill.

We need to have A La Carte like they have in Canada. Otherwise cord cutting will continue. I would like to be able to choose a package with just the news and educational channels in it. I can't. Dish Network's entry level packages lack access to all of them at the same time due to forced bundling by the providers which prevents Dish from doing this without an act of congress. One entry level package only offers MSNBC, and the other one only offers FOX News and not both of them for example.

 

[fuzzy]

if only the dvr could record ota without breakups during the dispute

 

[Tampa8]

My OTA recordings are flawless, with the VIP..... I will not be assimilated...

 

[dare2be]

My OTA recordings are flawless, with the VIP..... I will not be assimilated...

All hail reliable technology, where I can record OTA, set my reboot time, and sort my lists!

 

[JerryDowning]

I noticed during a Cubs game today that WGN is scrolling a message across the bottom of the screen that tells Dish customers to call Dish if they wish to watch Cubs games. What I don't understand is if a Cubs fan cannot watch the game, how do they see the message?

 

[Tampa8]

I guess if you are at a friend's house??

 

[Bobby]

Or at the local bar to watch the game...

 

[Blackhawks]

I now have OTA guide data for the DVR with Tribune's WNEP so for the most part I am now a happy customer.

Still waiting for the superstations though they were only available in SD anyway. I was able to ask for a refund without having to cancel them and worry about never getting them turned back on due to Dish's self imposed 'bridge of no return' policy. I plan to ask for it again at the end of this month should the dispute carry on into August.

I rarely watched WGN America and even less so since they removed the nightly prime time simulcasts of WGN News. Its just another boring channel now with just a small handful of origonal series. I can live without it since if there is breaking news in Chicago, WGN America is not going to show it anyway. Plus I did hear that WGN Chicago (The Local Version) will be losing its CW Affiliation, I think in September.

Perhaps other Tribune stations will follow if people start petitioning their respective networks should this dispute carry over to other satellite / cable providers also having to black them out.

Forced bundling is an issue and should not fit the definition of 'good faith' requirement that the FCC promotes. This should be challenged via the FCC and not through arbitration. Dish should take this up directly with the FCC and on capital hill.

We need to have A La Carte like they have in Canada. Otherwise cord cutting will continue. I would like to be able to choose a package with just the news and educational channels in it. I can't. Dish Network's entry level packages lack access to all of them at the same time due to forced bundling by the providers which prevents Dish from doing this without an act of congress. One entry level package only offers MSNBC, and the other one only offers FOX News and not both of them for example.

OTA WGN-TV9 is dropping the CW to focus on Chicago Sports, so they don't need to sub-contract out sports to WCIU or another Independent Station due to Network Commitment. WGN carries the Blackhawks, Cubs, Sox & Bulls (these teams also are on other stations)