UHD Bitrate

[HDTVFanAtic]

An interesting note here for people who want to know these things:

Jaws 2 on UHD Sunday Evening at 9pm Eastern:

ACTUAL VIDEO BITRATES - NOT TSREADER TRANSPORT STREAM BITRATES:

E* 1920x1080i with Telecine Flag 9.30 Mbps
D* 1280x1080i with Telecine Flag 9.61 Mbps

 

[lee78221]

So..... I am not good with numbers can you tell me what they mean?

 

[dragon002]

directv is broadcasting at a higher bitrate than dish

 

[bgsmallwood]

E* has more resolution and more tiling and blocking during motion
D* has less resolution and less tiling and blocking during motion

 

[lbostons]

huh?

 

[beast37799]

d*is using a lower resoultion but at a higher bitrate fora clearer and cleaner picture .e*is using a higher resoultion picture but at a lower bitrate creates more distortion and poorer picture quality

 

[lbostons]

Thank you for the explanation! I think that I need a PQ for dummys manual!

 

[bgsmallwood]

Of course this is just one channel at one point in time only.

 

[RobertsD]

1920x1080i will look better then 1280x1080i whether the bitrate is slightly lower or not....

 

[Sean Mota]

In fact, those few that have UHD on both providers have made the observation that UHD on E* looks a lot sharper with more vivid and vibrant colors. The colors on D* are dull and soft almost like trying to hide something.

Read here http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=56273

 

[dragon002]

that is your opine, and others have different views.

 

[Sean Mota]

Well, if you had UHD on D* and had UHD on E* you may also form an opinion. If you have both, please make a comparison and an opinion as the comparison will be clear as day.

 

[bgsmallwood]

The implications of the resolutions and bitrates stated are ONLY that D* would be better suited for FAST MOTION reproduction. NOT that D* would look better or worse or anything about color levels. Only that D* would demonstrate less tiling and blocking especialy on motion like SPORTS.

 

[Sean Mota]

I agree with you but the tiling is very apparent on D*.... and yet the colors are very soft and dull on D*. Do not ask me why but that is the way it is as I compared both. The question now is why is this happening. Is the down resolution doing this or is there other factors at the encoding time that D* is doing that is softening the picture?

 

[vurbano]

that is your opine, and others have different views.

O please UHD is possibly the one HD channel with the most problems on D*. I have never seen the promo for that channel hold together all the way through. Not one time. It has more problems than anyone can count. The only thing that looks worse is Hdnetmovies. That channel has been absolutely butchered and looks like widescreen SD if there were such a thing. My superbit movies often look better.

 

[vurbano]

The implications of the resolutions and bitrates stated are ONLY that D* would be better suited for FAST MOTION reproduction.

I guess if you like smooth transitions of a DULL lifeless picture you are correct.

 

[dragon002]

I agree with you but the tiling is very apparent on D*.... and yet the colors are very soft and dull on D*. Do not ask me why but that is the way it is as I compared both. The question now is why is this happening. Is the down resolution doing this or is there other factors at the encoding time that D* is doing that is softening the picture?

sean,

AGAIN, you are gonna get what they can provide for at least 2006, all your incessant crying, whining and writing letters and e-mails is not gonna change ANYTHING. it is like in REAL FOOTBALL (american) A REBUILDING period. if they do it right you will love it. if not, move on.

BTW sean, how about the steelers, REAL FOOTBALL champs!

 

[Sean Mota]

sean,

AGAIN, you are gonna get what they can provide for at least 2006, all your incessant crying, whining and writing letters and e-mails is not gonna change ANYTHING. it is like in REAL FOOTBALL (american) A REBUILDING period. if they do it right you will love it. if not, move on.

BTW sean, how about the steelers, REAL FOOTBALL champs!

No whiinning and no crying... Just some intelligent conversation of people with HDTVs and can compare results. But yet again you engage in conversation about HDTV in which you do not have any valuable input because you have no HDTV and as you put it in another thread "You don't care about HDTV". I don't care about NFL football... you can have the steelers winning every year as far as I am concerned.

 

[dragon002]

sean,

i see these people that buy HD tvs EVERY DAY, i see more tvs and monitors than you can imagine. i see different set-ups every day.

honestly? the BEST ive seen,,,, pioneer elite 46 inch with the elite command center and the H-10...............stunning color saturation, the sound was excellent as pioneer always is.

 

[Jimbo]

sean,

i see these people that buy HD tvs EVERY DAY, i see more tvs and monitors than you can imagine. i see different set-ups every day.

honestly? the BEST ive seen,,,, pioneer elite 46 inch with the elite command center and the H-10...............stunning color saturation, the sound was excellent as pioneer always is.

Yes,
I would buy Pioneer over my Sony, IF I could afford it !!!

Jimbo