[VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release

[nostrodumb_ass]

[VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release

I can't believe no one has posted this here yet, so here goes:

_____________________________________________________________________

Press Release Source: Cablevision Systems Corporation=20


Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and=20
Liabilities
Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET=20


BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems=20
Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a=20
letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company=20
formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock,=20
including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business,=20
assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite=20
business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with=20
EchoStar announced January 20, 2005.=20
ADVERTISEMENT
=20
=20
In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision=20
against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS=20
satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred.=20
For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various=20
shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it=20
would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut=20
down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in=20
connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of=20
securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business=20
and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the=20
transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are=20
subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28,=20
2005.=20

"We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to=20
continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said=20
Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong=20
enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to=20
providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest=20
and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming=20
available."=20

VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-
definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by=20
Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES=20
Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer=20
agreements and other VOOM-related assets.=20

=20






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[Robert Heitner]

RE: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release

I couldn't be happier to see this. Thank you. Now.. as soon as they release
their whole house dvr solution, I'll call 1-800-GetVoom to signup again
=20
Robert Heitner Jr.=20
Data Developers Plus, Corp.
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Home of the #1 Contact Management Solution!
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From: nostrodumb_ass [mailto:kkledzik1@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:18 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release


Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and=20
Liabilities
Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET=20


BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems=20
Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a=20
letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company=20
formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock,=20
including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business,=20
assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite=20
business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with=20
EchoStar announced January 20, 2005.=20
ADVERTISEMENT


In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision=20
against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS=20
satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred.=20
For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various=20
shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it=20
would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut=20
down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in=20
connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of=20
securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business=20
and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the=20
transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are=20
subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28,=20
2005.=20

"We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to=20
continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said=20
Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong=20
enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to=20
providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest=20
and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming=20
available."=20

VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-
definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by=20
Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES=20
Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer=20
agreements and other VOOM-related assets.=20


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[Sneaky John]

RE: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release

Wow!!!!!!!!!!! This is awesome!!!!!! Thanks!=0D
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John =0D
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Date: 02/10/05 18:24:41=0D
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com=0D
Subject: RE: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release=0D
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I couldn't be happier to see this. Thank you. Now.. as soon as they release=
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their whole house dvr solution, I'll call 1-800-GetVoom to signup again =
=0D
=0D
Robert Heitner Jr. =0D
Data Developers Plus, Corp.=0D
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From: nostrodumb_ass [mailto:kkledzik1@yahoo.com] =0D
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:18 PM=0D
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com=0D
Subject: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release=0D
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=0D
Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and =0D
Liabilities=0D
Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET =0D
=0D
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BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems =0D
Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a =0D
letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company =0D
formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock, =0D
including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business, =0D
assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite =0D
business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with =0D
EchoStar announced January 20, 2005. =0D
ADVERTISEMENT=0D
=0D
=0D
In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision =0D
against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS =0D
satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred. =0D
For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various =0D
shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it =0D
would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut =0D
down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in =0D
connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of =0D
securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business =0D
and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the =0D
transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are =0D
subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28, =0D
2005. =0D
=0D
"We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to =0D
continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said =0D
Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong =0D
enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to =0D
providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest =0D
and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming =0D
available." =0D
=0D
VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-=0D
definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by =0D
Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES =0D
Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer =0D
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[william hunteman]

[VOOM] Cablevision chair to buy remainder of Voom

Thursday, February 10, 2005 =B7 Last updated 5:14 p.m. PT

Cablevision chair to buy remainder of Voom

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK -- Charles Dolan, founder and chairman of Cablevision Systems
Corp., is not one to give up on his satellite TV plans.

After being forced by Cablevision's board of directors to sell
fledgling TV service Voom's only satellite to EchoStar Communications
Corp. for $200 million, Dolan said late Thursday that he is planning
to buy out the remainder of Voom's assets.

The deal includes Voom's 26,000 customers, 21 exclusive high
definition channels, various spectrum licenses and leased capacity.

Under the plan, Dolan, along with his son Tom Dolan and some other
Cablevision shareholders, will form a private company that will assume
Voom's liabilities and protect Cablevision from any losses.

Cablevision has signed a letter of intent agreeing to the transaction,
but the board must still approve final terms.





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[seattlesatelliter]

Thank you "nostrodmb_ass"! Just got home, had dinner and got on here
and read the great news. Now we'll have to really support Tom and
Charles.

Will be calling my local retail A/V friend tomorrow and tell him the
new. Maybe, just maybe this time they'll go to those who can sell
VOOM and get out of Sears.

Just turning on VOOM for the evening under clear Seattle skies as I
type this, Gill


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "nostrodumb_ass" <kkledzik1@y...> wrote:
>=20
> I can't believe no one has posted this here yet, so here goes:
>=20
> _____________________________________________________________________
>=20
> Press Release Source: Cablevision Systems Corporation=20
>=20
>=20
> Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and=20
> Liabilities
> Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET=20
>=20
>=20
> BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems=20
> Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a=20
> letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company=20
> formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock,=20
> including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business,=20
> assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite=20
> business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with=20
> EchoStar announced January 20, 2005.=20
> ADVERTISEMENT
>=20=20
>=20=20
> In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision=20
> against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS=20
> satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred.=20
> For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various=20
> shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it=20
> would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut=20
> down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in=20
> connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of=20
> securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business=20
> and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the=20
> transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are=20
> subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28,=20
> 2005.=20
>=20
> "We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to=20
> continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said=20
> Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong=20
> enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to=20
> providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest=20
> and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming=20
> available."=20
>=20
> VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-
> definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by=20
> Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES=20
> Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer=20
> agreements and other VOOM-related assets.





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[Plywodstatebum]

Yahooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! :d

 

[sueio]

I think we are watching a well orchestrated play.=20=20

Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first satellite, to
Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented 'Rainbow 2', selling
Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it operates at Ku-band while
the 5 new satellites will operate at Ka-band, a much higher capacity.=20

Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It probably allows much debt
to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD to license its
content to other satellite and cable operators.

Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding the financing needed to
keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for 3 to 4 years while
the new satellites are built and launched by Lockheed Martin.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "nostrodumb_ass" <kkledzik1@y...> wrote:
>=20
> I can't believe no one has posted this here yet, so here goes:
>=20
> _____________________________________________________________________
>=20
> Press Release Source: Cablevision Systems Corporation=20
>=20
>=20
> Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and=20
> Liabilities
> Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET=20
>=20
>=20
> BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems=20
> Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a=20
> letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company=20
> formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock,=20
> including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business,=20
> assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite=20
> business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with=20
> EchoStar announced January 20, 2005.=20
> ADVERTISEMENT
>=20=20
>=20=20
> In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision=20
> against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS=20
> satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred.=20
> For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various=20
> shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it=20
> would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut=20
> down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in=20
> connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of=20
> securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business=20
> and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the=20
> transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are=20
> subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28,=20
> 2005.=20
>=20
> "We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to=20
> continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said=20
> Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong=20
> enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to=20
> providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest=20
> and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming=20
> available."=20
>=20
> VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-
> definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by=20
> Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES=20
> Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer=20
> agreements and other VOOM-related assets.





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[thegrod]

sueio-
That's a very good analysis.

----- Original Message -----
From: "sueio" <paul@sueonline.us>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:05 PM
Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release




I think we are watching a well orchestrated play.

Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first satellite, to
Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented 'Rainbow 2', selling
Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it operates at Ku-band while
the 5 new satellites will operate at Ka-band, a much higher capacity.

Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It probably allows much debt
to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD to license its
content to other satellite and cable operators.

Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding the financing needed to
keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for 3 to 4 years while
the new satellites are built and launched by Lockheed Martin.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "nostrodumb_ass" <kkledzik1@y...> wrote:
>
> I can't believe no one has posted this here yet, so here goes:
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> Press Release Source: Cablevision Systems Corporation
>
>
> Cablevision Signs Letter of Intent to Divest Rainbow DBS Assets and
> Liabilities
> Thursday February 10, 5:56 pm ET
>
>
> BETHPAGE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Feb. 10, 2005--Cablevision Systems
> Corporation (NYSE: CVC - News) today announced that it has signed a
> letter of intent under which VOOM HD, LLC, a new private company
> formed by certain holders of Cablevision Class B Common Stock,
> including Charles Dolan and Tom Dolan, will acquire the business,
> assets and liabilities of Cablevision's Rainbow DBS satellite
> business not included in Cablevision's definitive agreement with
> EchoStar announced January 20, 2005.
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
> In consideration, VOOM HD will assume and indemnify Cablevision
> against substantially all of the liabilities of the Rainbow DBS
> satellite business existing at the closing or thereafter incurred.
> For Cablevision, the transaction will allow it to avoid various
> shutdown costs and other liabilities of the VOOM service which it
> would have incurred had it proceeded with its original plan to shut
> down the service. Cablevision will incur certain severance costs in
> connection with the transaction. VOOM HD is in the process of
> securing financing to support the ongoing operations of the business
> and anticipates having that financing in place by the close of the
> transaction. The parties' obligations under the letter of intent are
> subject to the execution of a definitive agreement by February 28,
> 2005.
>
> "We're pleased to have an understanding that will permit us to
> continue VOOM's state-of-the-art service for its customers," said
> Tom Dolan of VOOM HD. "VOOM has met with critical acclaim and strong
> enthusiasm among its customers, and VOOM HD is committed to
> providing the necessary resources to continue building the largest
> and broadest selection of HD and standard definition programming
> available."
>
> VOOM will acquire Cablevision's interest in the VOOM 21 high-
> definition channels that are currently carried exclusively by
> Rainbow DBS, various Ka-Band, Ku-Band and MVDDS licenses, the SES
> Americom lease on the Rainbow 2 satellite, existing customer
> agreements and other VOOM-related assets.







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[thegrod]

Bob,
I also expect the number of subscribers to magically double in no time at
all. When you are buying a company form the stockholders and you have that
much control....You want the income potential to be as minimized as
possible.
Bruce
Thegrod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release



Interesting to note that those agreements with Lockheed for 5 new satellites
were signed very late last year. Nov/Dec dates on the PRs that I have read.
That doesn't sound like a company who is on the verge of giving up and
selling their existing satellite, so I'm thinking there is much more behind
the scenes that we are all reading.

IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to pacify the Cablevision
shareholders and let the Board off the hook for any liability. Words to the
affect have even been used.

Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the spinoff was nixed. The events
of the last couple of weeks are uplifting indeed.

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sueio [mailtoaul@sueonline.us]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:06 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
>
>
>
> I think we are watching a well orchestrated play.
>
> Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first satellite, to
> Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented 'Rainbow 2',
> selling Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it operates
> at Ku-band while the 5 new satellites will operate at
> Ka-band, a much higher capacity.
>
> Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It probably allows
> much debt to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD to
> license its content to other satellite and cable operators.
>
> Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding the financing
> needed to keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for 3
> to 4 years while the new satellites are built and launched by
> Lockheed Martin.
>
>





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[Bob Mankin]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next release of subsriber numbers isn't
double. Everyone still quotes the 26k which is a very dated number. You
don't hear as much about churn and the install process seems to be slowly
working itself out.=20

While I think there have been missteps in the first year, they are clearly
working on the issues, the Dell marketing angle seems to be getting tractio=
n
and the coming months will be interesting, if nothing else.

Bob=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thegrod [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]=20
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:03 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
>=20
>=20
> Bob,
> I also expect the number of subscribers to magically double=20
> in no time at all. When you are buying a company form the=20
> stockholders and you have that much control....You want the=20
> income potential to be as minimized as possible.
> Bruce
> Thegrod
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Interesting to note that those agreements with Lockheed for 5=20
> new satellites were signed very late last year. Nov/Dec dates=20
> on the PRs that I have read.
> That doesn't sound like a company who is on the verge of=20
> giving up and selling their existing satellite, so I'm=20
> thinking there is much more behind the scenes that we are all reading.
>=20
> IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to pacify the=20
> Cablevision shareholders and let the Board off the hook for=20
> any liability. Words to the affect have even been used.
>=20
> Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the spinoff was=20
> nixed. The events of the last couple of weeks are uplifting indeed.
>=20
> Bob
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sueio [mailtoaul@sueonline.us]
> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:06 PM
> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
> >
> >
> >
> > I think we are watching a well orchestrated play.
> >
> > Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first satellite, to=20
> > Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented 'Rainbow=20
> 2', selling=20
> > Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it operates at=20
> Ku-band while=20
> > the 5 new satellites will operate at Ka-band, a much higher=20
> capacity.
> >
> > Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It probably=20
> allows much debt=20
> > to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD to license its=20
> > content to other satellite and cable operators.
> >
> > Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding the=20
> financing needed to=20
> > keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for 3 to 4 years while=20
> > the new satellites are built and launched by Lockheed Martin.
> >
> >
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[Bob Mankin]

Interesting to note that those agreements with Lockheed for 5 new satellite=
s
were signed very late last year. Nov/Dec dates on the PRs that I have read.
That doesn't sound like a company who is on the verge of giving up and
selling their existing satellite, so I'm thinking there is much more behind
the scenes that we are all reading.

IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to pacify the Cablevision
shareholders and let the Board off the hook for any liability. Words to the
affect have even been used.

Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the spinoff was nixed. The events
of the last couple of weeks are uplifting indeed.

Bob=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sueio [mailtoaul@sueonline.us]=20
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:06 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I think we are watching a well orchestrated play.=20=20
>=20
> Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first satellite, to=20
> Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented 'Rainbow 2',=20
> selling Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it operates=20
> at Ku-band while the 5 new satellites will operate at=20
> Ka-band, a much higher capacity.=20
>=20
> Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It probably allows=20
> much debt to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD to=20
> license its content to other satellite and cable operators.
>=20
> Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding the financing=20
> needed to keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for 3=20
> to 4 years while the new satellites are built and launched by=20
> Lockheed Martin.
>=20
>=20



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[jeffrey gold]

I think you don't understand why voom was created.
Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so
echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to
show the FCC that in fact there was a competitive
market.
There must have been an agreement with the dolans that
in the event that the system did not work out that
echostar would buy Voom and hence echostar had not
committed to HD birds like Direct has. Now voom will
be integrated and to some extent kept separate as
stand alone service with Dish.

--- Bob Mankin <bob@coralfarms.com> wrote:

> I wouldn't be surprised if the next release of
> subsriber numbers isn't
> double. Everyone still quotes the 26k which is a
> very dated number. You
> don't hear as much about churn and the install
> process seems to be slowly
> working itself out.
>
> While I think there have been missteps in the first
> year, they are clearly
> working on the issues, the Dell marketing angle
> seems to be getting traction
> and the coming months will be interesting, if
> nothing else.
>
> Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thegrod [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:03 AM
> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
> release
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> > I also expect the number of subscribers to
> magically double
> > in no time at all. When you are buying a company
> form the
> > stockholders and you have that much control....You
> want the
> > income potential to be as minimized as possible.
> > Bruce
> > Thegrod
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:57 AM
> > Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
> release
> >
> >
> >
> > Interesting to note that those agreements with
> Lockheed for 5
> > new satellites were signed very late last year.
> Nov/Dec dates
> > on the PRs that I have read.
> > That doesn't sound like a company who is on the
> verge of
> > giving up and selling their existing satellite, so
> I'm
> > thinking there is much more behind the scenes that
> we are all reading.
> >
> > IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to
> pacify the
> > Cablevision shareholders and let the Board off the
> hook for
> > any liability. Words to the affect have even been
> used.
> >
> > Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the
> spinoff was
> > nixed. The events of the last couple of weeks are
> uplifting indeed.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sueio [mailtoaul@sueonline.us]
> > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:06 PM
> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
> release
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think we are watching a well orchestrated
> play.
> > >
> > > Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first
> satellite, to
> > > Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented
> 'Rainbow
> > 2', selling
> > > Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it
> operates at
> > Ku-band while
> > > the 5 new satellites will operate at Ka-band, a
> much higher
> > capacity.
> > >
> > > Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It
> probably
> > allows much debt
> > > to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD
> to license its
> > > content to other satellite and cable operators.
> > >
> > > Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding
> the
> > financing needed to
> > > keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for
> 3 to 4 years while
> > > the new satellites are built and launched by
> Lockheed Martin.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------

 

[Bob Mankin]

Jeff, I don't think Chuck Dolan would agree much with your assessment. I
know I don't.

The Echostar/DirecTV merger was killed in either late '02 or early '03. I
don't recall exactly. By that time the Voom concept was very much in
progress. Their satellite would have been well under construction in order
to meet the July '03 launch date.

BTW, Voom hasn't been sold to Echostar, only the Rainbow 1 satellite, an
uplink facility and the rights to transponders. All subject to FCC and
probably a host of other gov't agency approvals. It's not a done deal by a
long shot.=20

Rainbow also signed contracts for no less than 5 new satellites late last
year. I've seen no announcement of those contracts being canceled so one
would assume those contracts would be part of the recent deal between
Cablevision and the Voom HD, LLC group.

Bob=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeffrey gold [mailto:jgold49@yahoo.com]=20
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release
>=20
>=20
> I think you don't understand why voom was created.
> Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so=20
> echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to show the=20
> FCC that in fact there was a competitive market.
> There must have been an agreement with the dolans that in the=20
> event that the system did not work out that echostar would=20
> buy Voom and hence echostar had not committed to HD birds=20
> like Direct has. Now voom will be integrated and to some=20
> extent kept separate as stand alone service with Dish.
>=20
> --- Bob Mankin <bob@coralfarms.com> wrote:
>=20
> > I wouldn't be surprised if the next release of subsriber=20
> numbers isn't=20
> > double. Everyone still quotes the 26k which is a very dated number.=20
> > You don't hear as much about churn and the install process=20
> seems to be=20
> > slowly working itself out.
> >=20
> > While I think there have been missteps in the first year, they are=20
> > clearly working on the issues, the Dell marketing angle seems to be=20
> > getting traction and the coming months will be interesting,=20
> if nothing=20
> > else.
> >=20
> > Bob
> >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thegrod [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:03 AM
> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
> > release
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Bob,
> > > I also expect the number of subscribers to
> > magically double
> > > in no time at all. When you are buying a company
> > form the
> > > stockholders and you have that much control....You
> > want the
> > > income potential to be as minimized as possible.
> > > Bruce
> > > Thegrod
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:57 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
> > release
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Interesting to note that those agreements with
> > Lockheed for 5
> > > new satellites were signed very late last year.
> > Nov/Dec dates
> > > on the PRs that I have read.
> > > That doesn't sound like a company who is on the
> > verge of
> > > giving up and selling their existing satellite, so
> > I'm
> > > thinking there is much more behind the scenes that
> > we are all reading.
> > >=20
> > > IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to
> > pacify the
> > > Cablevision shareholders and let the Board off the
> > hook for
> > > any liability. Words to the affect have even been
> > used.
> > >=20
> > > Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the
> > spinoff was
> > > nixed. The events of the last couple of weeks are
> > uplifting indeed.
> > >=20
> > > Bob
> > >=20



------------------------

 

[thegrod]

Jeffrey,
While some of what you said could be plausible it is clearly devoid of the
facts. Sorry, but I have gotten a bit frustrated with the internet of late
because people state their opinions as fact without clearly stating that it
is just conjecture. Then it is passed along like the old school game
telephone until your original opinion somehow becomes someone else's fact.
the internet can be a dangerous place for those who believe everything you
read. Bob Mankin has taken the time to research the situation a bit and I
have come to respect what he has to say and he clearly states when it is
fact and when it is just his opinion.

----- Original Message -----
From: "jeffrey gold" <jgold49@yahoo.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release


>
> I think you don't understand why voom was created.
> Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so
> echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to
> show the FCC that in fact there was a competitive
> market.
> There must have been an agreement with the dolans that
> in the event that the system did not work out that
> echostar would buy Voom and hence echostar had not
> committed to HD birds like Direct has. Now voom will
> be integrated and to some extent kept separate as
> stand alone service with Dish.
>
> --- Bob Mankin <bob@coralfarms.com> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if the next release of
>> subsriber numbers isn't
>> double. Everyone still quotes the 26k which is a
>> very dated number. You
>> don't hear as much about churn and the install
>> process seems to be slowly
>> working itself out.
>>
>> While I think there have been missteps in the first
>> year, they are clearly
>> working on the issues, the Dell marketing angle
>> seems to be getting traction
>> and the coming months will be interesting, if
>> nothing else.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: thegrod [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:03 AM
>> > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
>> release
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob,
>> > I also expect the number of subscribers to
>> magically double
>> > in no time at all. When you are buying a company
>> form the
>> > stockholders and you have that much control....You
>> want the
>> > income potential to be as minimized as possible.
>> > Bruce
>> > Thegrod
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>> > To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 8:57 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
>> release
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Interesting to note that those agreements with
>> Lockheed for 5
>> > new satellites were signed very late last year.
>> Nov/Dec dates
>> > on the PRs that I have read.
>> > That doesn't sound like a company who is on the
>> verge of
>> > giving up and selling their existing satellite, so
>> I'm
>> > thinking there is much more behind the scenes that
>> we are all reading.
>> >
>> > IMO, the "dumping" of Voom assets was primarily to
>> pacify the
>> > Cablevision shareholders and let the Board off the
>> hook for
>> > any liability. Words to the affect have even been
>> used.
>> >
>> > Even I have had my doubts about Voom when the
>> spinoff was
>> > nixed. The events of the last couple of weeks are
>> uplifting indeed.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: sueio [mailtoaul@sueonline.us]
>> > > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:06 PM
>> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press
>> release
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I think we are watching a well orchestrated
>> play.
>> > >
>> > > Act 1 was the sale of Rainbow 1, Voom's first
>> satellite, to
>> > > Dishnetwork. With the availability of the rented
>> 'Rainbow
>> > 2', selling
>> > > Rainbow 1 sound like a smart move since it
>> operates at
>> > Ku-band while
>> > > the 5 new satellites will operate at Ka-band, a
>> much higher
>> > capacity.
>> > >
>> > > Act 2 is the separation from Cablevision. It
>> probably
>> > allows much debt
>> > > to be restructured and open the door for Voom HD
>> to license its
>> > > content to other satellite and cable operators.
>> > >
>> > > Let's hope the Dolan's will succeed in finding
>> the
>> > financing needed to
>> > > keep Voom HD alive with the rented satellite for
>> 3 to 4 years while
>> > > the new satellites are built and launched by
>> Lockheed Martin.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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[Amphicar770]

That is quite the conspiracty theory.

Let me get this straight. E* wanted to create a 3rd operator to prove there was a competitive market. Cablevision came along said, "sure Charlie, we will take loses of $75 million per quarter to help you out and will then sell you our new bird at a fraction of its cost".

Another beautiful theory destroyed by facts and good sense!

I think you don't understand why voom was created.
Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so
echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to
show the FCC that in fact there was a competitive
market.
There must have been an agreement with the dolans that
in the event that the system did not work out that
echostar would buy Voom and hence echostar had not
committed to HD birds like Direct has. Now voom will
be integrated and to some extent kept separate as
stand alone service with Dish.

> > ------------------------ [/color][/color]

 

[thegrod]

Nah c'mon. Jeff is right. I think the Klingons are involved too!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amphicar770" <satguys2004@yahoo.com>
To: <VOOM@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] Re: Voom here to stay - Press release


>
>
> That is quite the conspiracty theory.
>
> Let me get this straight. E* wanted to create a 3rd operator to prove
> there was a competitive market. Cablevision came along said, "sure
> Charlie, we will take loses of $75 million per quarter to help you out
> and will then sell you our new bird at a fraction of its cost".
>
> Another beautiful theory destroyed by facts and good sense!
>
>
> jeffrey gold Wrote:
>> I think you don't understand why voom was created.
>> Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so
>> echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to
>> show the FCC that in fact there was a competitive
>> market.
>> There must have been an agreement with the dolans that
>> in the event that the system did not work out that
>> echostar would buy Voom and hence echostar had not
>> committed to HD birds like Direct has. Now voom will
>> be integrated and to some extent kept separate as
>> stand alone service with Dish.
>>
>> > > ------------------------ [/color]
>
>
> --
> Amphicar770
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This message was posted via http://www.satelliteguys.us by Amphicar770
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>[/color]


------------------------

 

[biggest_ed]

I say we declare Feb 10 as VOOM hog day. If the VOOM hog sees his
shadow on that day, 12 more months of the best HD provider in the
solar system!


Jeff







------------------------

 

[Plywodstatebum]

RE: [VOOM] Voom here to stay - Press release

Yahooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! :d


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[Amphicar770]

That is quite the conspiracty theory.

Let me get this straight. E* wanted to create a 3rd operator to prove
there was a competitive market. Cablevision came along said, "sure
Charlie, we will take loses of $75 million per quarter to help you out
and will then sell you our new bird at a fraction of its cost".

Another beautiful theory destroyed by facts and good sense!


jeffrey gold Wrote:
> I think you don't understand why voom was created.
> Echostar wanted to buy directv and the feds said no so
> echostar wanted a third sat operator in the mix to
> show the FCC that in fact there was a competitive
> market.
> There must have been an agreement with the dolans that
> in the event that the system did not work out that
> echostar would buy Voom and hence echostar had not
> committed to HD birds like Direct has. Now voom will
> be integrated and to some extent kept separate as
> stand alone service with Dish.
>
> > > ------------------------ [/color][/color]


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