Another DISH Football Fight
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Juan I both agree with you, and disagree. It's fair to postulate that DISH should charge less to people permanently not getting RSN's. Where I disagree is saying that DISH does not do that. A customer in good standing very likely can get a discount perhaps more than the cost of the RSN's for a period of time.
After that, it seems to me DISH has decided you know what DISH is offering, if you don't feel you are getting the value you want, there are other carriers. Some may not agree and feel DISH should give a permanent discount but that's where competition is the answer. Direct TV will in most cases have your RSN's. If you have Cable available they too will have them. Will you pay more by switching with similar programming and receivers, after new customer discounts that could be. (Cable rarely offers equipment that I would call equal, another consideration)
After that, it seems to me DISH has decided you know what DISH is offering, if you don't feel you are getting the value you want, there are other carriers. Some may not agree and feel DISH should give a permanent discount but that's where competition is the answer. Direct TV will in most cases have your RSN's. If you have Cable available they too will have them. Will you pay more by switching with similar programming and receivers, after new customer discounts that could be. (Cable rarely offers equipment that I would call equal, another consideration)
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I would like to make a satellite guys radio dedication to charlie and all the boys at dish network
I don't even have Dish anymore, but this crap is getting old.
If you live in or around the NY DMA, your pretty much getting screwed paying for RSN's as part of your package and not getting them.
When locals are not available in your area, but included in your package, you get a discount. The same should hold true for RSN's
But this is calculated move in the NY and surrounding DMA's
They already pissed off people because they don't carry the Yankees and several other sports networks. The only people watching Dish in the area don't seen to care about sports, or they already would have switched.
So they don't carry this channel, how many more subs do they loose?
It's probably cheaper to take the sub loss, then pay to carry the station
If you live in or around the NY DMA, your pretty much getting screwed paying for RSN's as part of your package and not getting them.
When locals are not available in your area, but included in your package, you get a discount. The same should hold true for RSN's
But this is calculated move in the NY and surrounding DMA's
They already pissed off people because they don't carry the Yankees and several other sports networks. The only people watching Dish in the area don't seen to care about sports, or they already would have switched.
So they don't carry this channel, how many more subs do they loose?
It's probably cheaper to take the sub loss, then pay to carry the station
Bingo. Dish signed up Nebraska right away because they know Nebraska football is a big deal and they would lose a lot of subs if they didn't pay up.
They also know that Rutgers football will cost a lot more (more subs) but that Rutgers is not a big deal for most of the state - more people are into the NFL or Penn State. I'd bet they'll choose not to pay for New Jersey until they are forced to the next time the contract is renegotiated.
They also know that Rutgers football will cost a lot more (more subs) but that Rutgers is not a big deal for most of the state - more people are into the NFL or Penn State. I'd bet they'll choose not to pay for New Jersey until they are forced to the next time the contract is renegotiated.
I never knew of the extra RSN fees. I'm in the Cedar Rapids demographic so I suppose it makes sense. We get CSN Chicago and BTN for our regional channels.
Egad... and the problem grows to affect European Football. Champions League is being split on FS1 and FS2. We don't even get FS2 in HD. So what used to be available on FSC has been split onto two channels and I have to pay more to get FS2. I use to have one of the cheaper packages to get FSC. But now I'll miss The Reds in their Champions League debut. Fox really really sucks.
Fox: Yeah see, we want to offer less programming of value, however, we want to split our channels up an charge more for it.
Fox: Yeah see, we want to offer less programming of value, however, we want to split our channels up an charge more for it.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the local network, I would hope fox to go out of business. I really can't think if a single channel of theirs that I watch. Anything outside of sports(I watch sports, just not as often as I would like)?
FS2 HD is being tested ATM and should launch (Dish) Soon
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Won't mean much unless FS2 gets plopped to a lower tier for me, and I'm on Dish's side here. Fox is offering less sports (lost the EPL!) coverage but want more money. I can't disagree with Dish trying to push against that. FSC would show several Champions League games, now FS1 and FS2 will likely show fewer combined! That is nuts. I doubt Fox would offer the other games online as the Champions League is one of the only things that would make anyone consider paying for FoxSoccer2Go and/or Fox "Soccer" Plus.
Fox had made access to the European Football brilliantly awesome, now they have lost their path.
Nope same amount as it used to be FSoc, FSoc+, and FSN now it is FS1, FS2, FSN, and FSoc+ has a RedZone type channel coverage during the early rounds.
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Just to be clear....It is your contention that NY Metro Dish subs are paying for YES, MSG and SNY even thought these services are unavailable on Dish?
On this I gotta see some proof.
My view...In the not too distant future, sports will start heading toward pay per view only.
Ok. Here's your proof. The difference between AT120 and AT120+ is $5 per month and the only difference between those two packages is RSNs. This means that Dish is charging about $5 per month for RSNs tacked on to AT120+ and up. Customers in states without RSNs aren't getting a $5 credit every month. In fact, they aren't getting a credit of any amount. Packages cost the same there as everywhere else. That means that dish is charging them for RSNs just like those of us with 2 or 3 RSNs but they aren't providing them.
here's my bill.
Sep 24 - Oct 23 Monthly Charges
America's Top 250 79.99
Multi-Sport w/ Redzone 11.00
DVR Receiver 10.00
HBO - 6 Mo (50% Off) 9.50
Protection Plan 8.00
DVR Service 7.00
Receiver 7.00
Receiver 7.00
5 Superstations 7.00
$146.49
Notice I sub to the 250 which includes the rsn's....I also sub to the multi-sport so i can view the NFL RZ channel.
So it appears that since we both sub to the 250 which includes RSN's, you are indeed over paying because Dish does NOPT provide your local RSN's.....That is criminal. Dish is STEALING from you.
I'd be bending the ear of a DIRT Team member on here real quick....All NJ/NY subs who are with the 120+ and above are being charged for RSN's they are NOT getting ...That is BEE ESS
