Not happy with the Dish Hopper DVR
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To put it in literal terms, I have a 722 and a 211 today. I feed a TV in the bedroom from the 211 via diplexers. Now, let's say I have a Hopper and 2 Joeys to feed those 3 TVs. If The Hopper dies I have 3 TVs down. If I stay the same as I am now. If the 722 or the 211 dies, I can simply rotate one or the other to my main viewing center and wait for the replacement. The argument holds well....
I admit that it would suck if your three room set up went down all at once because of the Hopper. If I swap out my 922 and 211k with the Hopper I'll run into the same problem you are talking about. Luckily I'm able to pull a receiver from my inventory and swap it out right away. The regular customer couls have an issue.
For sure. Have to admit, dish receivers have been rock solid. People have had problems, but the ones we have are old and still work great. Hopefully these new units will be the same.
Software-wise; well, we'll just have to see how that goes. Hopefully they learned a thing or two from the 922.
Still admit, it looks cools as hell.
Those of us who've decided we need two Hoppers anyway, with one Hopper out we'd just find ourselves a few tuners short. Granted, there's fees for that, but consider it insurance against total signal loss 
You're not just an optimist, but driving with rose glasses.
They never been "rock solid" in reality.
You're not just an optimist, but driving with rose glasses.
They never been "rock solid" in reality.
I don't know...I read where some people have used them like rocks for door stops, etc.
(JK)
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I was pretty excited about the Hopper when I first saw it and saw you could record 6 shows at once, then I read the fine print and that is not the case. If they would just allow my 622 and 722 to link over the network and share hard drives I would have everything I want, seem it should be possible.
Problem I see with Hopper - Only really have 3 tunners where now I have 4
Gain I would get with Hopper - Get HD on my 3rd TV that only gets SD now
PTAT - I just don't get it. Record a bunch od stuff you don't want to get maybe one or two shows you do want. Then if I read it correct you only have it for 8 days? I haven't seen anyone else mension that, but they would be no good for us, heck it might be a month before we watch a recorded show some times. PTAT is advertising hype and not really real world useful I don't think.
Problem I see with Hopper - Only really have 3 tunners where now I have 4
Gain I would get with Hopper - Get HD on my 3rd TV that only gets SD now
PTAT - I just don't get it. Record a bunch od stuff you don't want to get maybe one or two shows you do want. Then if I read it correct you only have it for 8 days? I haven't seen anyone else mension that, but they would be no good for us, heck it might be a month before we watch a recorded show some times. PTAT is advertising hype and not really real world useful I don't think.
I've seen that Dish will have a way for viewing to be blocked from others when using two Hoppers.
If you use the PTAT and that's optional, if you see a program that you want to save past the 8 days, your supposed to be able to move over to your portion of the internal hard drive.
If the possible pricing posted in a different thread is correct, the pricing of a 2nd Hopper would be the same as a Joey. That would give you 6 Dish tuners accessible from any TV attached to either the Hopper or Joey. In my case, once the ota tuner is released, I would go with 2 Hoppers and 2 or 3 Joeys. I have 1 hdtv that rarely gets used. If I could the have the coax run to that TV and just move one of the Joeys when I wanted to watch TV, I would go the 2/2 route.
You just described my house exactly (except we're debating if we can get away with ONE Joey, but I think we'll need two for when the in-laws are visiting)
Does anyone know for sure that two Hoopers will talk to each other and share DVR recordings back and forth, or is everyone just assuming that they will? Do I just end up with the same situation that I have now with two DVR's that can't share
MY wiring system is a bit weird. The home distribution goes to the TV that is rarely watched. However, the composite out from TV2 goes to a VCR. The coax outs from the vcr feeds 2hdtv and 1 sd lcd sd TV. One of those TV's is in my computer room. That is also connected to my 211 via hdmi. That way I can watch stuff that I've dvr'd on the 722 while working at the computer.
I thought that the demo at CES was a single Hopper with two Joeys. I seem to remember Scott saying that he has not seen the two hopper setup actually working yet.
To answer mopar_mudder, the two hoppers are supposed to talk with each other. That has been one of the key selling points of this Hopper/Joey system.
Well then as long as 2 hopper and 1 Joey is no more per month then I pay for my 622 & 722 now I will probably jump on it, if it is more I probably will just hang with what I have.
The thing that makes me wonder is if Dish will have some rule on what the customer must have in order to get a second Hopper. I'm not sure if Dish will allow a customer to get just 2 Hoppers and no Joeys. I'm thinking a customer will need to have at least a Hopper and a Joey before they can get a second Hopper. I don't know why I'm thinking it, just call it a hunch.
This is what I am also wondering. We are also wondering if the first Joey is included in the price. If so then why not take the Joey if it is free and then just get the second Hopper? If they want to charge for the first Joey then thats $17 in fees vs. $6 that they are charging now and that is a big increase.
