So you think the consumer really decided the outcome?

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r.jones1116

r.jones1116

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take a look at this . . .

2007 Box office take in the USA . . . $10 Billion

2007 DVD Revenue in the USA . . . . .$24 Billion ($42B ww)

2007 HDM Revenue in the USA . . . . .$300 Million.

Here is the breakdown on the $300 Million:

BD - 7 studios . . . $170M

HD DVD - 4 studios - $130M

The split between D/D and Catalog is 65/35 for both formats.

BD - $110.5M D/D and $59.5M Cat.

HD DVD - $84.5M D/D and $45.5M Cat.

Pretending all studios release the same amount of titles for easy math purposes

BD yields 24.3 million /studio

HD DVD yields 32.5 million/studio.


Now thats real incentive for a studio to go BluRay exclusive.
 
I bet this is the same math the board at Warner Bros. struggled with before they went blu. I can see it now. "If we pretend that all studios release the same amount of titles for easy math purposes, maybe this isn't the right decision.":rolleyes:
 
The only true, fair way to have a winner is if all titles were available in all formats. That's not the case, so any comparing of sales figures can be manipulated any way by any one.
 
JonUrban said:
The only true, fair way to have a winner is if all titles were available in all formats. That's not the case, so any comparing of sales figures can be manipulated any way by any one.
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The only fair way to have a winner is to have a winner period. We are not there yet. We are closer then we have ever been but we are not there yet. Crying about what is fair and what is not is moot. Companies base decisions on what they believe is in the best interest of their business -- which is to make money. Fair does not even enter into the equation.
 
r.jones1116 said:
take a look at this . . .

2007 Box office take in the USA . . . $10 Billion

2007 DVD Revenue in the USA . . . . .$24 Billion ($42B ww)

2007 HDM Revenue in the USA . . . . .$300 Million.

Here is the breakdown on the $300 Million:

BD - 7 studios . . . $170M

HD DVD - 4 studios - $130M

The split between D/D and Catalog is 65/35 for both formats.

BD - $110.5M D/D and $59.5M Cat.

HD DVD - $84.5M D/D and $45.5M Cat.

Pretending all studios release the same amount of titles for easy math purposes

BD yields 24.3 million /studio

HD DVD yields 32.5 million/studio.


Now thats real incentive for a studio to go BluRay exclusive.
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I think I would take the $500 million too rather than 24 mill. Wow, if you have the bucks you can simply purchase victory.
 
vurbano said:
I think I would take the $500 million too rather than 24 mill. Wow, if you have the bucks you can simply purchase victory.
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What $500 million? That was long ago debunked.

Even if it were true, your selective memory doesn't mention the confirmed $150 mill HD-DVD paid.
 
Warner Swayed By $500 Million From The BDA


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According to a trusted source that was close to the negotiations, Warner and FOX were working on a deal to go Exclusive to HD DVD as recent as last week. Our source tells us that Warner was only willing to go to HD DVD if FOX would go with them. Their thinking was if they just went to HD DVD by themselves, it would not end the format war. Early this week FOX was paid an undisclosed amount to remain exclusive to Blu-ray. With the FOX deal falling through, Warner had no choice but to accept the BDA’s $500 Million offer to go Blu-ray exclusive. We do wonder if FOX was just playing the HD DVD side, while having no intentions of ever switching.
Warner Swayed By $500 Million From The BDA : Format War Central
 
Which is what Sony did. They spent money educating the retailers that BD is the better product. 6 mos ago it was hard to find HD-DVD on end caps or anywhere prominent in stores. They sent product specialists to " educate" the electronics purchasing agents for retailers. It's part of sales. Hands down BD's marketing and sales people were better.
 
We really need the dead horse smiley here.

I really have not seen anyone here say that the consumer decided. We all thought we were helping by buying movies. At the end of the day, the studios/retailers will decide who wins.
 
I am curious how the different studios make up the total number of movies released, not just HD Discs? Blu has 5 major studios, but do they make up 5 out of 7 movies, or do Universal and Paramount make a large enough number of movies to counteract that difference? Anyone know? I tried to get a number, but wasn't coming up with anything concrete. I am sure it differs from year to year, but in general it is probably pretty consistent.
 
elwaylite said:
We really need the dead horse smiley here.

I really have not seen anyone here say that the consumer decided. We all thought we were helping by buying movies. At the end of the day, the studios/retailers will decide who wins.
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Of course the consumers did not decide. No one asked me. :)

Politics at its ugliest. Even worse than Hilary vs. Obama. :eek:
 
vurbano said:
denied not debunked.
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I love how you dump all over any pro-BD speculation and demand to know sources. Yet formatwarcentral says "a trusted source" said there was a pay off and you preach it as gospel. And you still ignore the $150 mill HD-DVD got.
 
chicagofilms said:
I love how you dump all over any pro-BD speculation and demand to know sources. Yet formatwarcentral says "a trusted source" said there was a pay off and you preach it as gospel. And you still ignore the $150 mill HD-DVD got.
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Money changed hands to every studio except Sony/Columbia. Even if checks weren't directly written, studios got breaks on royalties, advertising "assistance", and discounted replication.
 
The consumer DID decide to buy more BD movies. They did all year long. HD-DVD had the lead in number of titles at the beginning of 2007, by the end they were about the same. The consumer bought almost 2:1 in favor of BD.

BD did a much better job of pursuading consumers to buy movies.
 
mike123abc said:
The consumer DID decide to buy more BD movies. They did all year long. HD-DVD had the lead in number of titles at the beginning of 2007, by the end they were about the same. The consumer bought almost 2:1 in favor of BD.

BD did a much better job of pursuading consumers to buy movies.
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20 weeks of BOGO through 2007 was not persuading the consumer. It is called manipulating the numbers.
 
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