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which is not the same as "moving" as its being talked about here. That is called i think he said "stacking" and yes thats done often too, but its different.

No, I am saying you claim to have a box at home A to get those locals, but it is really at home B. They call home A, but you can not give them the id numbers of the box because you do not have it there. That is what I am referring to.
 
I hope you're NOT installing dishes for a living...

No, I am saying you claim to have a box at home A to get those locals, but it is really at home B. They call home A, but you can not give them the id numbers of the box because you do not have it there. That is what I am referring to.

WHAT difference DOES it make where the box IS - the ID number generated is NOT dependent on WHERE it is actually LOCATED at. The ONLY thing that DOES matter, is that those numbers DO change & you must be able to read them off AT THE TIME they are calling you about them. It makes NO difference WHATSOEVER if you & your receiver(s) are at your house, 50 miles away, 500 miles away, 2000 miles away, in a hotel, girlfriends house, whorehouse, camper, car, etc - as long as you can see your receiver screens is the ONLY thing that matters.

Sorry, but receiver audits will NOT stop movers, unless they start sending people out to your place to find you... ;) ;)
 
No, I am saying you claim to have a box at home A to get those locals, but it is really at home B. They call home A, but you can not give them the id numbers of the box because you do not have it there. That is what I am referring to.
which still isnt what they are talking about. Moving as its referred to here means simply changing the address they have in the system so that they authorize your box to receive channels that you wouldnt normally be able to get. All of the boxes stay at the same home, so calling and checking the numbers wouldnt do squat for that.

What you are referring to is having one account and 4 receivers have all four boxes at different locations(not the same house). That is also done alot, but not the same as "moving" in this thread.
 
I hope you're NOT installing dishes for a living...



WHAT difference DOES it make where the box IS - the ID number generated is NOT dependent on WHERE it is actually LOCATED at. The ONLY thing that DOES matter, is that those numbers DO change & you must be able to read them off AT THE TIME they are calling you about them. It makes NO difference WHATSOEVER if you are at your house, 50 miles away, 500 miles away, 2000 miles away, in a hotel, girlfriends house, whorehouse, camper, car, etc - as long as you can see your receiver screens is the ONLY thing that matters.

Sorry, but receiver audits will NOT stop movers, unless they start sending people out to your place to find you... ;) ;)
exactly. I may have misunderstood what he was trying to say in my reply also, simply because that isnt the way it works.
 
I hope you're NOT installing dishes for a living...



WHAT difference DOES it make where the box IS - the ID number generated is NOT dependent on WHERE it is actually LOCATED at. The ONLY thing that DOES matter, is that those numbers DO change & you must be able to read them off AT THE TIME they are calling you about them. It makes NO difference WHATSOEVER if you & your receiver(s) are at your house, 50 miles away, 500 miles away, 2000 miles away, in a hotel, girlfriends house, whorehouse, camper, car, etc - as long as you can see your receiver screens is the ONLY thing that matters.

Sorry, but receiver audits will NOT stop movers, unless they start sending people out to your place to find you... ;) ;)

I tried twice to explain it. You don't get it. That's okay.
 
I tried twice to explain it. You don't get it. That's okay.
honestly i think its you that doesnt get it, no offense. We arent talking about people with multiple houses here.
perhaps you could explain it one more time from the top in easy terms. You may just not be explaining it well enough.
 
You guys crack me up! ;)

And yes the previous poster was correct, the location ID has nothing to do with the physical location of the box.
 
Now that all the little "holier-than-now-watch-ONLY-REAL-local-channels-do-gooders" have spoken... :rolleyes: (guess they all came over from the other site)



It should be, as long as your location falls within the Cleveland spotbeams. Also, do be aware that the HD spots may vary from the SD spots. (could be more or less) How far away are you from Cleveland would help to tell us. I assume that you currently are getting the Cleveland locals thru E* with no problems.

Don't worry about all the little naysayers - I've moved on BOTH systems since at least 2001 & haven't lost a night's sleep yet, & probably won't for the foreseeable future. :D ;)
justify it anyway you want to, it's stealing,,, and so is cheating on your wife even if your wife is "blackedout" any given night and you feel you want some
 
justify it anyway you want to, it's stealing,,,

Well putting your idiotic comparison to "cheating on my wife" aside, if you REALLY wanna grasp at some straws, the ONLY thing at best that I'm stealing is commercial time from my "real" local affiliates. Big surprise - I DON'T GIVE A FLYING F#$%K ABOUT THEM!!! Nor, do I really care about if someone like you likes it or not. This is NOT about robbing a bank or molesting children - it's about on the same level as borrowing a friend's CD & making a copy of it. And sorry to disappoint you, but much like this, I won't be loosing sleep again tonight while I am recording from YOUR locals - get over it!!! :rolleyes: :p
 
I tried twice to explain it. You don't get it. That's okay.

You can explain it 100 times & it STILL doesn't make sense - as other posters have ALREADY pointed out to YOU. That's OK too - we know how it works & you (very obviously) do NOT, so we'll just have to agree to disagree... :rolleyes:
 
I'm a current Dish subscriber who's "moved" and my service address is Cleveland. Therefore, I get all the Indians games from STO, and the Browns from the local affiliates, and the Cavs on FSN Ohio.

But the bad news is Dish does not carry the Cleveland locals in HD. Is it as easy to "move" with D* as it is with E*?

It looks like E* will not be carrying the Cleveland locals until it shoots a few new sats next year, then who knows when it'll happen after that?

If I read it right, I switch to D*, "move" to Cleveland, and I get the locals in HD, as well as all 3 sports teams?

Is it that easy to get what I want?

To answer your initial question with out all the B.S. everyone else has fed you.... Yes it is very easy to "move" with D*. This is the first thread I have seen on this subject where no one is being very helpful.

I have done it in the past and actually "moved" back to my local market. What I did was get a zip code (I don't remember which one), it was somewhere in rural Maine, and it did not have any locals offered to it at all, so I instantly qualified for the East and West local channels. I also told the Rep, "I have the HD package and would like those locals in HD as well", she ran it through the computer and of course it instantly qualified again. Because the HD waivers were separate from the SD waivers, I was able to "move back" the very next day, and the local HD waivers stuck with my package and I still get them to this day at no extra charge.

All you need to do is call them up and tell them you are moving in with your mother for a couple of months while she is recovering from surgery and need to change your service address only, (leave the billing address the same). Tell them you are very hand with technology, and all ready have your dish mounted and receivers connected and are receiving all your channels properly except your locals, and you want to receive the locals where you are staying with your mother.

If you have the HD package you will get the locals in HD if they are available.

Remember, if for any reason on the future you need to have service, or you upgrade a receiver and D* insists on sending a technician to install it, they will send the tech to your service address.

The only bug-a-boo you may have is if the spot beam for the locals you are "moving" to does not cover where you currently reside. But Erie, PA should not be a problem to get Cleveland's market.

I hope this helps.
 
"Fraud" is a little extreme, don't you think? You can't compare auto insurance and satellite TV.

Instead of getting your real locals, you are getting someone else's. Big deal. What exactly are you stealing there?

I didn't say anyone was stealing. If you lie or cheat and gain from it, that is fraud. Plus, you cause D* and E* to break the law, potentially causing me problems.

Yes, it is fraud, and they ought to require proof. A mortgage, lease agreement, utility bill, ect.

You can argue day and night, but the fact that you perpetrate it (and then try to justify it) brings your integrity into question.

:rolleyes:

That said, I 'moved' once. From monroe La to Memphis. The difference is that I already had a deposit on an apartment and was preparing to actually move to memphis. At the time, D* didn't have the monroe La locals, I had the distants out of NY and LA. I gave those up to get memphis. I spent 18 months in that apartment, then I bought a house here.
 
Now that all the little "holier-than-now-watch-ONLY-REAL-local-channels-do-gooders" have spoken... :rolleyes: (guess they all came over from the other site)

I'm not holier than thou, I just don't appreciate you aholes doing that which could potentially trickle down on me should D* and E* get fined. They aren't breaking the law on purpose. Its because of you. Yet, if they get nailed, we all gotta pay.




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Well putting your idiotic comparison to "cheating on my wife" aside, if you REALLY wanna grasp at some straws, the ONLY thing at best that I'm stealing is commercial time from my "real" local affiliates. Big surprise - I DON'T GIVE A FLYING F#$%K ABOUT THEM!!! Nor, do I really care about if someone like you likes it or not. This is NOT about robbing a bank or molesting children - it's about on the same level as borrowing a friend's CD & making a copy of it. And sorry to disappoint you, but much like this, I won't be loosing sleep again tonight while I am recording from YOUR locals - get over it!!! :rolleyes: :p

No moron, by moving, you are stealing from a lot of other people, too. If you are watching an out of market football team, by all rights you should be on sunday ticket, which means you are stealing from the NFL. But they are a big rich corporation, so they deserve it, huh? Tough for the people who bust their asses to provide a quality product just so people like you can steal it, huh. :rolleyes:

I don't give a rat's ass about the local channels. However, the number 1 reason most of you people 'move' (including the OP---reread the first post) is related to sports. Even though there are things like Sunday Ticket, League Pass, and Extra Innings available for that exact reason.
 
WOW-

stealing from and defrauding major corporations, and major integrity problems. Sounds like I should be sent away for quite awhile for wanting to watch some games.

The only reason I went with Dish over DTV originally was because DTV did not carry my locals (still doesn't), or Sportstime Ohio (Indians). Dish does.

The reason to move to Cleveland was basically to get the Browns for 16 weeks in the winter.(Erie is considered a Buffalo market). And I figured since Cleveland is the largest DMA w/o HD on Dish, I thought they'd be next.

So it certainly sounds like I've gone out of my way to lie, cheat and steal (oh, and cheat on my wife) by asking a simple question.
 
With my wretched resume that has been exposed here, most women would, I'm sure. But she's a Brown's fan, also.:up
 
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I'm not holier than thou, I just don't appreciate you aholes doing that which could potentially trickle down on me should D* and E* get fined. They aren't breaking the law on purpose. Its because of you. Yet, if they get nailed, we all gotta pay.

WELL AHOLE, then WHY does E* (in particular) make it SO easy to "move", by putting the "change your address" prompt at the VERY top of the call in menu? You would think if the providers are as HALF as scared as YOU evidently are, they, at the VERY least, would NOT make it 2nd/3rd prompt & thereby making it ever EASIER for us to do our dastardly deeds. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p :p
As someone else already pointed out - the ONLY thing E* & D* care is that I pay my bills, which I dutifully have done for years now.

No moron, by moving, you are stealing from a lot of other people, too. If you are watching an out of market football team, by all rights you should be on sunday ticket, which means you are stealing from the NFL. But they are a big rich corporation, so they deserve it, huh?

Well MORON, I could care LESS about ST, MLB etc - the ONLY reason why I moved WAS because of getting different locals. (or actually back then, ANY locals, as we didn't have them at all thru the dish)

Tough for the people who bust their asses to provide a quality product just so people like you can steal it, huh.

la, la, la; la, la, la - I can't hear you... :p :D SET IT TO MUSIC!

I don't give a rat's ass about the local channels.

So then why the HELL are we even having this discussion. :confused:
I'm DONE with this asinine discussion with you - I'm going back to watching my illegally gotten programming. :D :D :D
 
So it certainly sounds like I've gone out of my way to lie, cheat and steal (oh, and cheat on my wife) by asking a simple question.

Well look at the bright side - according to the "moron" that posted all that crap, we'll have LOTS of company as we burn in hell... :D :D ;) ;)
 
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