Dish will not shut off anyone's HD. In fact, those with HD programming but a non-compliant TV will still be "receiving" their HD programming. Their TV simply won't display it.
More on Dish HDCP
- Thread starter Scott Greczkowski
- Start date
- Latest activity Latest activity:
- Replies 153
- Views 33K
And all cable providers. Scott, you should know better.... This protection will be added by the networks in the original stream. They send it up to the satellites and Dish, DirecTV, Time Warner, Comcast, etc, etc all receive the same signal. Dish doesn't get their "own" feed from HBO, ESPN, and so on, do they ? Nope.... Nor does DirecTV.
Which is essentially the same thing. They will not be getting the product they paid for.
I haven't use the HDMI output on my 622 in a long time but I know on my old cable set-top, if you switched from component to DVI/HDMI or vis-versa, you had to reboot the box for it recognize the change.
The component outputs will no longer do 720p or 1080i when this goes into effect from the sounds of it. They'll be 480i (maybe 480p) only.
You sure about that ? What if NBC, ABC, and so on decide they want to "protect" their programming ?
In a practical sense you are correct. In a legal sense though it would come down to whether the provider made any specific claims about the resolution being delivered.
D*, E*, and the cable companies will explain "their side", asked to be dropped from the complaint, and the judge will do so.
Ughh.... I am screwed. My SONY XBR970 is NOT compliant.
Piss me off, you damn DRM-loving, MPAA/ RIAA idiots. I think its time to rejoin the Electronic Freedom Foundation, enough of this Digital Millenium crap.
Based on the fact that all this talk only refers to HD receivers and specifically, HDMI and DVI connections, which SD receivers don't have, it's safe to assume that these measures will only be applied to HD programming.
One of my 622s has both component and HDMI hooked to the same TV. I can switch back and forth between the 2 with the TV input selector. Yes the component outputs are in 1080i.
I would agree that the only thing that makes sense is to downres everything coming out of the component to 480i/p. Otherwise someone could do as I suggested, just connect an HDCP compliant TV to the HDMI and run component to the main set.
I suspect that's not an option for a lot of people as that means someone needs (2) HDTVs. People who are most concerned about this have *older* HDTVs and in many cases, only (1).
I said this in another thread, but this screws me when it comes to buying an HD-DVD or BluRay player someday. My TV has (1) DVI input (it does support HDCP). If I have to use that for the 622, I have no options for HD-DVD or BluRay.
Not really, all you need is a HDMI switch. My TV also has only 1 DVI connection but I have 3 HDMI components connected right now (622, DVD Recorder, HD-DVD Player).
For only $36.25 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 4X1 Enhanced HDMI Switch with built-in Equalizer (REV.2.5) | Auto/Powered HDMI Switch
NightRyder
I need your help guys. I have a Samsung lcd. Love the picture it has with component. Hdmi is cloudy. I took it back about a month ago to make sure it was not the tv. With all of this about to take place by next year. Should I take this tv back and get another brand?? I still have about a month before I can do so. I hate this because I like this tv so much.
I would take it back. I had a Samsung DLP a couple of years ago and thank full I had the extended insurance. Best Buy took it back under the lemon policy. If I was to get a new TV today I would get the new Sony's LCD, 1080P with the new 120 refresh rate.
DMCA was one of the most consumer unfriendly bills to come around in a long time, DRM is killing fair use rights, itunes protected content can't be used by the program of my choosing, give me a break. This is the same thing, they will back door this by starting with HBO, PPV, Showtime etc. then it will filter down to others.
The content Flag is gonna hurt the industry in the long run, when I try to explain to people about why something with DRM can't be played on another player, they glaze over, they do not wish to understand or want to, they just want it to work. We here are in the minority & are willing to figure it out. The average Joe won't.......
I found a 20" LCD with HDMI for about $300. If you have an expensive 1st generation plasma or monitor it might be a cheaper option than buying a new TV.
Hall needs a switch. Only about $40 for a 4 x 1: For only $36.25 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 4X1 Enhanced HDMI Switch with built-in Equalizer (REV.2.5) | Auto/Powered HDMI Switch
My 2003 direct view Toshiba with DVI checked out. The 622 found the HDCP.
When I have been on service calls and on QAs, i have found that many boxes weren't set to 1080i by the tech who installed it. On numerous occasions I saw a customer who had HD equipment but was watching a 480p picture through their HDMI cables because the receiver was left in 480p. I suspect many customers who have this scenario won't even notice a difference.
In any case, I'm sure someone will build a passthrough box that has HDMI in and HDMI out and just emulates some piece of HDCP equipment like the latest Pioneer or Sharp and so the receiver will think its seeing some brand of TV different than what the customer actually has. I'm sure someone can analyze the data stream between the TV and receiver and determine what information a TV provides and then just emulate it.
In any case, I'm sure someone will build a passthrough box that has HDMI in and HDMI out and just emulates some piece of HDCP equipment like the latest Pioneer or Sharp and so the receiver will think its seeing some brand of TV different than what the customer actually has. I'm sure someone can analyze the data stream between the TV and receiver and determine what information a TV provides and then just emulate it.
I am sure they are too. Technically, that is illegal under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
As someone said earlier in this thread, the most consumer unfriendly piece of legislation in our lifetimes probably.
Yee Haw!
My built-four-years-ago rear projection CRT set comes up with a HDCP:Yes !
I figured there was a good chance that since much of this TV is the holdover of an older set that had a HDMI connector kinda grafted onto it, that it wouldn't pass the HDCP handshake. This was the only year this set was made with HDMI as this was the last year it was in production.
My built-four-years-ago rear projection CRT set comes up with a HDCP:Yes !
I figured there was a good chance that since much of this TV is the holdover of an older set that had a HDMI connector kinda grafted onto it, that it wouldn't pass the HDCP handshake. This was the only year this set was made with HDMI as this was the last year it was in production.
