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If you have component you should be able to use it for Blu-Ray HDDVD should not be a issue.
For how long ? I thought it down-res'd the picture over component ? If it doesn't today, it *will* in the future.
HD DVD and Blu-Ray do not down rez over component. They can and probably will in the future but there is some sort of gentlemens agreement they won't for like the next 5 years. What you do lose from those players over component is the ability to upscale SD DVDs.
Yeah well from what I understand from Sony today they said if your Sony had a HDMI Input that it should be HDCP Compliant. Now if you have a DVI Input some are HDCP Compliant some might not be so you will need to check the input on back to see if its mark with HDCP. Or check your manual and if the info is not listed there which it's not always going to be then you will half to call them.
It is determined by a flag that is set in the HD-DVD or Blu-Ray media. Last I read, the studios had agreed not to turn the downrezz flag on at this time.
Tell me why I should spend a LOT more for an HD-DVD or BluRay player AND pay a LOT more for the DVDs themselves vs just buying an upconverting player ?
Your suggestion is like buying a Ferrari and putting snow tires on it to drive at the race track....
My point is that folks can still use component until they have a HDMI input available. If you have a HDMI input available then yes you always use it over component when it comes to Blu-Ray. So NO I'm not suggesting buying a Ferrari and putting snow tires on it.
Correct. I'll do some digging for an article I read a while back where studios discussed this. I though it was like 2010 or 2012, but as you said it could happen any time.
Did a bit of digging, couldn't find the exact article I recall but I did find a few that did say "at this time" like you mentioned. One of the articles said industry experts estimate that as early as 2009 or 2010 this flag will start getting some use.
This just keeps regular joes from archiving their already paid for content and creates an awesome opportunity for pirates, since they'll find a way to make illegal copies of HD material anyway. The illegal industry will boom.
I read about it on slashdot.org first. The HD-DVD and Blu-Ray manufacturers convinced the studios to not enforce the HDCP provisions until one or the other of the standards became established. Since both formats are still battling it out, enforcing it now would probably kill both formats at the same time.
Once one of those HD standards are de facto though, they will turn the flag on all new media from that point on. Moral is, buy your discs now, if you are sure which format will win
Frankly I don't expect this to happen, or if it does, it won't last. WAY too many people would be affected by it, and most of them won't be knowledgable enough to even know to switch the cable to component to fix it. There would be a huge uproar, and the studios would quickly find themselves as hated as the RIAA (if they aren't already) by the general public. As you can see, the RIAA and their members are already starting to backtrack on the whole DRM thing. Times are a' changing.
I have both Blu-ray and HD-DVD players. They will both upscale SD DVDs over component if you de-crypt the SD DVDs and make a non-copy protected DVD. This copy protection is exceptionally irritating! From this behaviour, I suspect that the same applys to regular upscaling DVD players. Why in the world is it wrong for a DVD player to upscale a copy protected SD DVD to 1080i by component?
I have 2 VIP 622s with both connected by component to my HD TV's. My 50" Samsung DLP is now connected to a PS3 with its only DVI connection so that it will upconvert SD DVDs without having to make non-copy protected copies. My HD DVD is connected by component to a 54" Samsung CRT rear projection TV that only has component inputs. Because of the HD/Blu-ray battle, we should be free from implementation of the HDCP flag for some time on HD and Blu-ray DVDs If this is implemented by some of the Dish providers, I think that so many people (imcluding myself) would drop the offending channels that the offending channels would quickly reverse.
Toshiba HD DVD-D2 player connected by HDMI cable to Vizio 47" LCD, play regular DVD and up-convert it to 1080i EVERY TIME; no complains at all to that, if do not count common issue ( making 4 or 6 time more pixels cannot make same quality picture as HD DVD).
