Tech Chat Recap 11-10-08

[dfergie]

SatelliteGuys.US
Tech Chat Recap
11.10.08

Hosts: Mark Jackson & Dan Minnick

Topics:
*Dvr Conversion
*New Receivers and Remote Controls
*Sling Media Update
* Cheyenne Uplink Tour
* Trivia Question Giveaways
* Live Q & A

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Dvrs:
How to turn your stand alone receiver into a Dvr
In the next week we will be rolling out software to turn your ViP 211 and ViP 211k boxes into Dvrs.
How: Buy a standalone Hard Drive and hook it up to your Vip 211 or 211k you will have access to all normal Dvr functions... you will have a 9 day guide instead of a 2 day guide, you will be able to watch one satellite program and record another or record an OTA program...

DVR Conversion
*Connect a compatible external hard drive after 11/19/08
-- USB 2.0
-- 50 GB to 750 GB
-- External Power supply (not via USB) (for drive)
* Call to pay one-time DVR EHD fee

Note if you have a ViP series dvr you will still have to pay the $39.99 archive fee to turn on the ViP 211 series archiving...

Note:
Multi- Lun Drives Basically have 2 platters(2 Hard Drives in one Box) about 4" thick Will Not Work...

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New Dvr Products:
* ViP 722K will be available in December
2 new features:
OTA tuner is now a module, available separately which has 2 OTA tuners in the module.
It also has a channel 3-4 output for TV1, you will be able to record 2 OTA programs and you can also access live OTA programming from TV2 output.
The ViP 722K also has a new feature, a learning remote.

*Vip 222K Will be available in December
Also has a separate OTA Module and is basically a non Dvr Version of the ViP 722K.
(K= Marketing Term)

* New 2 way learning remote comes with the 222 & 722. (Available in December)
Has a Search Key
4 Color Buttons for future use
2 way feature's let you store data on the remote from the Set Top Box and lets the Set Top Box transmit data to the remote. (if you have to replace either the STB or Remote, you will not lose your settings)

This remote(21.0) will be available to existing customers also, has 100's of new codes and it is a learning remote, you can teach it with your existing IR A/V remote. (available in December)
(note: the learning remote function's will not be available initially on the ViP222K)
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* ViP 722K DVR MSRP:

-- $499 with OTA Module

-- $470 without OTA Module

+ Available in December

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* ViP 222K MSRP:

-- $299 with OTA Module

-- $269 without OTA Module

+ Available in December

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New Receiver Accessories

* MT2 OTA Module MSRP $29.99

* 21.0 Replacement Remote
Control MSRP: $19.99

+ Available in December

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DTV Pal Dvr
Digital OTA Dvr Features
* Program Guide and all normal Dvr Features
* Will Record and play HD
* USB 2.0 Port and Ethernet port for future Dvr Features

DTVPal DVR
*MSRP $299.99 less $50 Rebate
* Pre-order after Nov. 19th 08 on www.dtvpal.com

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* Software Upgrades for existing receivers coming up
Folder capability's for External Hard Drive programs (Nov 20th ViP 622 & 722, first of the year for ViP 612)

* Mark stresses getting quality External Hard Drives.

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New Segment clip
Glen Harvey: Tips and Tricks
When checking for future programming to skip ahead push guide then the number of hours you want to skip ahead and the right arrow.
With Dvr push 30 second skip to move a full day ahead or push 30 second skip back to move back a day.
Photo Sharing with a flash drive.

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Uplink Center Tour at Cheyenne Wyoming with Steve Gottsegen
(clips below)

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Questions:
(Covered Below in Sound Bytes)
Main point -- Mpeg2 HD ceases December 1st (Question by SatelliteGuys Member KStuart)

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Sling Media
Ted Malone clip
Covers:
* Slingbox pro HD (first HD Sling box) access your Dish HD Programming anywhere in your house or wireless network, or with fast broadband access HD programming outside the home.
Covers
Mobile Sling
Sling Catcher (lets you stream from your Sling HD to anywhere)with Remote access using on screen remote will also interface External Hard Drive.
Sling Projector(lets you project video from a pc (only the portion you want ))

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+ Dan goes over networking ViP Series (sound byte below)
+ VOD Content
+ Glen Harvey ViP Networking clip using the Home plug
tech.dishnetwork.com
+ Home Plug Turbo recommended

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Scott Higgins ITV Update:
+ Dvr Timer Trigger(presents itself in a promotion, viewer selects a trigger and is given options)
Channel 100 DishHome

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Questions:
(covered below in soundbytes)

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Mark : Thanks us for watching...next tech forum in February

Next Up:

Charlie Chat
Monday December 8, 2008
Channel 101

 

[kstuart]

First email Q from "Ken" was me (MPEG2 conversion), second one was not me.

Their answer was that MPEG2-HD channels will be converted to MPEG4-HD on December 1st.

Other high points:

- November 20th will see Folders on External Hard Drives.

- December will see availability of the new 2-way remote with learning for $19.99 MSRP (less than I see 6.3 selling for).

- Seeing someone's DVR's Dish Guide on a Trio Cellphone using Sling.

 

[Rey]

love the ota add on. much better than the D ota add on.

 

[SatelliteGAL]

* Call to pay one-time DVR EHD fee
Is this the "one-time" fee we already paid to use the EHD with our 622? or is this in addition to that.... how much if it is.

I missed the whole blasted thing.

 

[Smith P.]

Next Tech Chat in FEBRUARY !!!

 

[Islandguy43]

* Call to pay one-time DVR EHD fee
Is this the "one-time" fee we already paid to use the EHD with our 622? or is this in addition to that.... how much if it is.

I missed the whole blasted thing.

Its an additional $39.95 fee for the 211...however it is good for no matter how many 211's you have.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Not a bad tech chat. I give it a thumb up.

It was pure tech the way it should be... The Sling stuff went on a little long but it was still good.

 

[Uther Pendragon]

* Call to pay one-time DVR EHD fee
Is this the "one-time" fee we already paid to use the EHD with our 622? or is this in addition to that.... how much if it is.

I missed the whole blasted thing.

Mark said $39.95 and labeled it a DVR fee. He said it was additional and call the EHD fee for the 622/722 an "archive fee". Huh???????? To me it should be one EHD fee. Part of the cost of my 722 wasn't a DVR fee. Just another way to get money from a turnip.

 

[Smith P.]

Mark said $39.95 and labeled it a DVR fee. He said it was additional and call the EHD fee for the 622/722 an "archive fee". Huh???????? To me it should be one EHD fee. Part of the cost of my 722 wasn't a DVR fee. Just another way to get money from a turnip.

That's Dish way to milk money from our pockets.

 

[ehren]

Better late than never for the old HD pak going to MPEG4 FINALLY!!!!!

My god I could not even watch Megadeth on HDNet last night the macroblocking was HORRIBLE.

 

[Uther Pendragon]

That's Dish way to milk money from our pockets.

Moooo. I feel like a cow.

 

[BigDon]

DTV Pal DVR

Is that a picture of Dish's new OTA only DVR? Wasn't it called the TR50? Any stats on that?

Don

 

[Smith P.]

Moooo. I feel like a cow.

Umm, I thought you're a man.
Mmmm, now I try imaging you as a bull in the position.

 

[kstuart]

Not a bad tech chat. I give it a thumb up.

It was pure tech the way it should be... The Sling stuff went on a little long but it was still good.

It was the first Higgins report that I was actually able to sit through to the end.

The "click to setup a DVR timer for the show being advertised" is a great idea. Helps both the customer and the programmers.

 

[TheKrell]

Drat it, I missed it all too.

DVR Conversion
*Connect a compatible external hard drive after 11/19:
-- USB 2.0
-- 50 GB to 750 GB
-- External Power supply (not via USB) (for drive)
* Call to pay one-time DVR EHD fee

Note if you have a ViP series dvr you will still have to pay the $39.99 archive fee to turn on the ViP 211 series archiving...

Clear as mud! So... If we've already paid the $40 archive fee, then we still have to pay another $40 for the DVR Conversion. But suppose we have not paid that $40 archiving fee, buy a 211, and convert it to a DVR with the DVR Conversion fee. Isn't that automatically an external archive? Or do we have to pay $80? And then what about the monthly fee?

 

[tigerfan33]

Better late than never for the old HD pak going to MPEG4 FINALLY!!!!!

My god I could not even watch Megadeth on HDNet last night the macroblocking was HORRIBLE.

Yep. Great news indeed. No more MPEG2 hd after Dec 1!!!!!!

 

[8arrett]

Click to setup...

It was the first Higgins report that I was actually able to sit through to the end.

The "click to setup a DVR timer for the show being advertised" is a great idea. Helps both the customer and the programmers.

I wonder if this would be for ViP only receivers or also for the old 508s??? Thoughts?



P.S.: I totally agree on the Higgins report! Unfortunately, I only saw the last few minutes. Thanks to all who posted screen shots and audio clips!!!!!

 

[DWS44]

SO...if I want to hook an EHD to my 211 for DVR functions, I have to pay $80 ($40 "one-time" DVR EHD fee + $40 archive fee) ?!?

 

[kstuart]

SO...if I want to hook an EHD to my 211 for DVR functions, I have to pay $80 ($40 "one-time" DVR EHD fee + $40 archive fee) ?!?

No.

$40 for any and all ViP non-DVRs (such as 211)

$40 for any and all ViP DVRs

entirely separate.

 

[dfergie]

Had some glitches... adding more content and working on the text part Thanks