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[harshness]

I wanted to replace my 301 with a 211K and Dish couldn't guarantee that it would be a 211K, it might be a 211. Space constraints meant that I needed that 211K. It has a smaller footprint.

Know that the receivers don't like being packed in like sardines. You need to be very careful about violating the "no fly zone" around the receiver or you'll cook its little brain.

 

[harshness]

i don't know but fearnet has told me they are in discussions with dish and an announcement is coming soon, and dish has told me that it is one of the top requested channels

You do understand that they are paid to tell you what you want to hear?

 

[Bobby]

Know that the receivers don't like being packed in like sardines. You need to be very careful about violating the "no fly zone" around the receiver or you'll cook its little brain.

Not that kind of space constraint. I have the 211K mounted vertical so that it can be seen by the remote. It sits right next to the LCD screen, up and down. It has plenty of breathing room.

 

[larryf]

Just for arguments sake, I'd love to see the viewership numbers if you pulled the Superbowl out of the statistics....

DISH has 14.5M customers. It's a safe assumption somewhere in the neighborhood of ~12.0M of them based on DISH's past statements COULDN'T CARE LESS about whether or not you get to watch Monday Night Football, MLB, and British Soccer Finals in high def from 20 different angles. Those same viewers also don't care to pay for the privilege. Someone posted "well just charge more and throw in some niche channels". That is BAD business logic. You don't charge 10M customers to cater to 1.5 or less. The money doesn't justify it.

And yes, pricing has a lot to do with it. The sports fanboys don't seem to understanding that it's smart for Charlie to avoid sports; those channels, which only interest the minority of subscribers cost upwards of 3-15x (ranging from RSN to major channels/packages) more than your average premium channel. Why buy HBO and then buy Center Ice or some other pack that costs 3-15 HBO's worth of cashflow? Sure, it makes the sports nuts happy, but again, bad business.

Assume HBO costs $1.00 per DISH's sub base (just to keep the numbers neat, I'm sure it's cents on the dollar)
Now assume Favorite Sports Crap costs $3.00

12.5M customers are supporting the $1 programming
~1.5M customers are supporting the $3 programming

The problem is, there are fewer customers supporting the triple-costed $3 package across a MUCH smaller demand base. In business terms, it's an obscene indiscretion in operating leverage. Couple this with the fact that sports channels often demand penetration into that $1 sub base who has no interest in their product and those 1.5M customers are now increasing the prices not just for themselves, but overall for a 14M customer sub base.

It's simple money; sports networks are greedy and sports fanatics don't care. Even at 30%, it's bad business due to cost. To justify the package prices sports networks charge, you need a 2-3x return on investment, which your 2M (or 30% or whoever would actually buy it) might support; but the majority of your customer base can't and won't. You do it anyways, their bills increase, your retention costs increase and your calls increase. For those 2M customers, you just pissed off ~12M and increased your churn.

Sports is great business if you happen to be pushing sports product (all the major leagues, stadiums, merchandising, etc). For everyone else, it sucks.

Amazing that you throw out statements and your assumptions that you cannot prove and then want to ignore the stats that prove you wrong. sports and sports programing are a BIG part of American lifestyles and those of you who deny this are the real minority. If you do not want to watch sports, most of the other content can be seen over the internet, yet you still pay for a program provider. if Charlie really thinks he can survive without sports, lets see him drop ESPN.

 

[gpollock87]

You do understand that they are paid to tell you what you want to hear?

really? so they just flat out lie to people

 

[Bobby]

Sometimes...... they shade the answer because they really don't know....

 

[gpollock87]

Sometimes...... they shade the answer because they really don't know....

dish csr's say they won't know until the last minute, but fearnet should not have told me that if they don't know

 

[kevpal84]

Find out if any of the show can be re-broadcast on the Retailer Portal like the Retailer chats have been done. I can not make it to Denver, but thanks to guys like you, by putting info out as soon as it is released helps us back here on the home front. Maybe you could put some video highlights of you own on your site...a different angle than what dish shows.

 

[kevpal84]

Find out if any of the show can be re-broadcast on the Retailer Portal like the Retailer chats have been done. I can not make it to Denver, but thanks to guys like you, by putting info out as soon as it is released helps us back here on the home front. Maybe you could put some video highlights of you own on your site...a different angle than what dish shows.

 

[jbullock.dishnetwork]

Scott,

I've been following your website for years and while doing so working directv and dish network fulfillment. I've finally got myself in a position with Dish Network retail to make it to Summit this year, and I've love to meet you - maybe even an autograph. =)

James Bullock
Operations Manager, Get Wired Satellites
2102 Macarthur Drive, Suite A
Alexandria, La 71301
P: 318.767.2220
F: 318.528.8717
C: 318.794.3670
Get Wired Satellites
operations@getwiredsatellites.com

 

[HIFI]

James, you may wanna send that info in a PM to Scott

 

[goaliebob99]

Amazing that you throw out statements and your assumptions that you cannot prove and then want to ignore the stats that prove you wrong. sports and sports programing are a BIG part of American lifestyles and those of you who deny this are the real minority. If you do not want to watch sports, most of the other content can be seen over the internet, yet you still pay for a program provider. if Charlie really thinks he can survive without sports, lets see him drop ESPN.

That's because a 25.62 rating means nothing to him! Even though that rating kicks most of prime time's you know what on any given night! On any channel!

 

[yaz96]

That would be true only if your 222 is not currently your primary receiver; those are free. So replacing a 222 with quantity two 211s will cost you an additional $7/mo. You will also have to pay the one time fee of $40 per account (not per receiver) for DVR conversion of your 211s.

That is incorrect. It is $40 PER Receiver for the 211k, as others here have stated.

 

[yaz96]

dish csr's say they won't know until the last minute, but fearnet should not have told me that if they don't know

It's more than likely wishful thinking with a positive spin for anyone that asks. Not a lie, just being hopeful.

 

[nsafreak]

That is incorrect. It is $40 PER Receiver for the 211k, as others here have stated.

Nope, that's incorrect. It's an account level charge as I have had friends that have paid that charge once and have added 211 receivers since paying that charge and have not had to pay the fee again to enable the DVR features on those receivers.

 

[MattG@DISH]

Nope, that's incorrect. It's an account level charge as I have had friends that have paid that charge once and have added 211 receivers since paying that charge and have not had to pay the fee again to enable the DVR features on those receivers.

I can confirm it's a one time fee to activate the feature per account. If you have 6 211's, it would still be a one time $40 fee

 

[Bobby]

Speedy has spoken! That ends that misconception...

 

[MattG@DISH]

Speedy has spoken! That ends that misconception...

RAWR!

 

[gpollock87]

It's more than likely wishful thinking with a positive spin for anyone that asks. Not a lie, just being hopeful.

i'm still thinking positive that it will get added one of these days

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I am sitting in the airport now waiting for my ride to Denver. I have nothing planned today for when I get to Denver so if anyone wants to meet up send me a pm.

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