Questions for the Dish Tech Team?

[pjsjeep]

Lol. Forgot that one. Don't watch it except for House. I watch nothing on NBC either.

 

[Jim S.]

This is correct also remember for these folks Primetime Anytime won't work as it requires hd locals via satellite.

I still don't see what sense it makes to require them to be in HD. If they only have them in SD, they're probably still all on one transponder.

 

[dare2be]

Point taken. But for those of us who get them, not a necessity.

Not true. I get all the major networks, CW, PBS, etc in HD via SAT, but no subchannels, no ION in HD, while the OTA ION is. Plenty of reason to still need the OTA tuner.

 

[mike123abc]

40 is about 1/5 of the total DMAs. I didn't realize it was that many.

But one has to remember the top 40 DMA cover 61.1% of the population
The bottom 40 DMAs cover 2.3% of the population

So, essentially about 97%+ will have this feature.


http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_Household_DMA_RANKS.pdf

Hopefully one day Dish will have all DMAs in HD.

 

[Jim5506]

I can see in the future Dish could create a receiver with 24 tuners and be able to record up to 200 channels on a 10TB drive for you to watch anytime in the next week.

All your channels are delivered pre recorded to the box, you watch when you want and everybody does not have to receive the same set of transponders that get recorded depending on your preference.

Dish programming packages would be grouped by transponders with basic channels on 12 TP, next teir on the next 6 TP and so on.

I think the new way they are recording the channels (an entire spotbeam/TP at once) is more exciting than the boxes themselves - Dish has been thinking outside the box.

 

[GaryPen]

I liked Vivek's response regarding the OTA module....sort of like, well yes there will be one, but why would you want it? And his explanation about it not doing prime time anytime made me understand the response. I guess unless if someone lives in a market where OTA is considerably better than sat, it really wouldn't serve much of a purpose.

Sub-channels.

Considering DISH doesn't provide locals in HD in 40 DMAs and with the bandwidth DISH uses for HD, some of us would still need OTA capability like we have on the ViP equipment.

That too.

The only down draw to ota is no prime time. Manual timers would be a must feature for ota.

If there's no guide data, then manual timers would be necessary. Otherwise, just use the guide, like it's done now on VIP models with OTA.

I do not see how Primetime Anytime could be accomplished using an OTA tuner. Hopper is recording the entire spot beam transponder bitstream for the HD locals and then parsing after-the-fact. OTA tuners serve up a discrete ATSC frequency. If you want to do PA using OTA, you would need 4 OTA tuners and set each one to record one of the Big 4 seven days a week.

I don't see anybody requesting OTA for PTAT. They, myself included, just want to be able to view and record OTA signals. That's all.

And, personally, I couldn't give a flying fig about PTAT. I'm not interested in it at all. Most broadcast network programming kinda sucks. I watch so little of it, I can easily record what I want with a few timers.

With so much higher quality programming on the "basic cable" networks, and stellar programming on the premiums, movies on TCM, Epix, HDNet, streaming from Netflix and Amazon Prime, , plus BBMP discs, I really can't see myself settling in for a night of "Whitney", "CSI Miami", and "Last Man Standing".

 

[Ghpr13]

I wonder if Dish will get a pat on the back from the big 4 networks for the "Prime Time Anytime"? I would think they would love the fact that all their prime time shows are being recorded every night. IMO, that leaves more of a chance for viewers to possibly watch shows they might have never watched before.

Ghpr13

 

[satjay]

I wonder if Dish will get a pat on the back from the big 4 networks for the "Prime Time Anytime"? I would think they would love the fact that all their prime time shows are being recorded every night. IMO, that leaves more of a chance for viewers to possibly watch shows they might have never watched before.

Ghpr13

Was thinking the same, in that maybe now you may give a show a chance that you may have not have as far as setting up a timer for a show

 

[Laddyboy]

I don't see anybody requesting OTA for PTAT. They, myself included, just want to be able to view and record OTA signals. That's all.

The person I replied to did which is why I made the reply that I did.

 

[Ghpr13]

Was thinking the same, in that maybe now you may give a show a chance that you may have not have as far as setting up a timer for a show

I wonder too if it could help any in negotiations down the road...Like when Dish was having problems with FX. If Fox wants to pull FX from Dish for some reason, then Dish just knocks the network Fox off of the PTAT...Now subs would still be getting the other 3 networks PT recorded every night. (Just thinking out loud here.)

Ghpr13

 

[Neutron]

But one has to remember the top 40 DMA cover 61.1% of the population
The bottom 40 DMAs cover 2.3% of the population

So, essentially about 97%+ will have this feature.


http://www.tvb.org/media/file/TVB_Market_Profiles_Nielsen_Household_DMA_RANKS.pdf

Hopefully one day Dish will have all DMAs in HD.

Except my DMA is not in the bottom 40. Mine is ranked 107 on that list.

 

[GaryPen]

I wonder too if it could help any in negotiations down the road...Like when Dish was having problems with FX. If Fox wants to pull FX from Dish for some reason, then Dish just knocks the network Fox off of the PTAT...Now subs would still be getting the other 3 networks PT recorded every night. (Just thinking out loud here.)

Ghpr13

Until the broadcast networks and local station owners accept the fact that the carriers are helping them more than they are helping the carriers, this will make no difference to them.

 

[sparc]

I wonder if Dish will get a pat on the back from the big 4 networks for the "Prime Time Anytime"? I would think they would love the fact that all their prime time shows are being recorded every night. IMO, that leaves more of a chance for viewers to possibly watch shows they might have never watched before.

Ghpr13

I doubt they are happy as broadcast networks probably don't like DVR. If people watch fewer commercials by skipping, that's less money in the pocket for these networks. If people watch fewer commercials, then you expect them to fight for even more money from Satellite/Cable providers to make up the shortfall.

 

[dwarren2]

Couple of things. In order for the usb ota module to be really functional it would have to integrate program info into the epg. There are a number of recordings I currently set up to record from the subchannels of the 2 PBS stations I receive.
Second. If the ota module prevents using the Primetime feature, if you have a 2nd Hopper, will the Primetime feature work off of that receiver.

 

[navychop]

If the USB OTA module driver works with PSIP I wonder if Dish would be so kind as to integrate it with the guide, or at least allow access to it in some other way.

I don't see why an OTA module would block PTAT.

 

[powerhouse1960]

I doubt they are happy as broadcast networks probably don't like DVR. If people watch fewer commercials by skipping, that's less money in the pocket for these networks. If people watch fewer commercials, then you expect them to fight for even more money from Satellite/Cable providers to make up the shortfall.

Can you skip the commercials on shows recorded with prime time anytime?
I thought I read you could not.

 

[satjay]

Can you skip the commercials on shows recorded with prime time anytime?
I thought I read you could not.

I asked Scott this, he said you could.

 

[samedaysatellite]

the big 4 rely on people like me. I forget to skip the commercials all the time. Itll be awesome for them because like someone else stated earlier, I will probably check out some of the shows I havent before because they are there.

 

[sethwell]

The PTAT feature might also skew ratings for some networks shows. While it might help a good show that hasn't found it's entire audience it might also keep a crap show on because of inflated numbers. Hopefully dish has a way to report actual watched shows rather than just recorded ones?

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[Neutron]

Hopefully DISH will fix the guide data for those channels that aren't displaying proper guide info when it comes to the Hopper and the OTA module.