Dish's New Nationwide Broadband

Scherrman said:
On Oct. 1st Dish is launching their new service called dishNET. It's nationwide.
Download/Upload Speed Data Cap Regular Price Bundle Discount Equipment Fee Bundled Activation Fee
5 Mbps/1 Mbps 10GB (5GB+5GB) $49.95/mo. -$10/mo. $10/mo. $0
10 Mbps/1 Mbps 20GB (10GB+10GB) $59.99/mo. -$10/mo. $10/mo. $0
10 Mbps/1 Mbps 30GB (15GB+15GB) $79.99/mo. -$10/mo. $10/mo. $0

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Why are they advertising only 10Mbps when the exede installs I've been doing is getting at least 12?

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I can relate. I was hoping that E might have a good broadband service at a reasonable price. Now I'm gonna be driven back to the local Suddenlink cable from AT&T as it has caps now and speed isn't the greatest in the world either.
 
Really...is this the "Ollo" sat launched back in november of 2011..that was suppose to be a nationwide broadband connection for dish customers?? Ollo was one of the main reasons I switched to dish.

Here is the story

Dish just finished firing off a 67-page letter to the FCC petitioning for the right to use its 2GHz spectrum for LTE-Advanced. Now, two recently filed trademark applications are tipping us off to a potential name for the satellite operator's planned 4G network, known as "Ollo." According to the company's filings, this brand would encompass both future equipment and services, huddling smartphones, tablets and a triple play of services under the same umbrella. The hybridized network still has significant hurdles to overcome before it gets a greenlight -- namely, a proven lack of LightSquared-like GPS interference. But, it appears the company's confident its newly acquired holdings will pass Go, delivering heretofore unseen downlink /uplink speeds to subscribers. As ever, we'll keep a close watch on this as it develops. DailyWireless FierceCable
 
Plus i was watching charlie on a cspan video on youtube. His vision...nationwide broadband...cell phone service...tv service..all at a price the customer can understand. He said...no hidden fees etc. Data caps mean hidden fees. Charlie said...he was tired of opening his cell bill..and not understanding the price.

Why not just partner with tmobile or sprint...unlimited data 3g or 4g...whole house mifi unit...dish tv service...flat rate cell service..blockbuster on demand...got it made there!!
 
My kid exceeds those bandwith levels each month using just his X-box . I could never afford satellite internet with caps on them.

I knew it. I just KNEW, way back when Dish/Echostar acquired Hughesnet that they would eventually: not only bundle the two, but market the internet as a method for streaming video from the internet. I'm a freaking prophet I tell ya. But it's really easy, anyone can do it. All you have to do is conceive of the most deceptive, misleading statements that can be technically made, and Dish Network will build a business around it:

"The hopper can record up to SIX SHOWS at once!"
"Stream high definition movies over the internet with DishNET!"
 
with data caps streaming is not really an option imho

Yes, sorry, I didn't say that explicitly because I thought it was obvious. You can NOT practically stream video with a ~10 Gb a month cap. One standard def movie takes almost a gig. A high def will take four times that amount. Download two movies, and you nearly hit your cap, nevermind browsing through lots of photos or streaming audio.

No one will explain this to the customers. They will be mad.
 
Yes, sorry, I didn't say that explicitly because I thought it was obvious. You can NOT practically stream video with a ~10 Gb a month cap. One standard def movie takes almost a gig. A high def will take four times that amount. Download two movies, and you nearly hit your cap, nevermind browsing through lots of photos or streaming audio.

No one will explain this to the customers. They will be mad.

whats the data size of a blueray?
 
Why are they advertising only 10Mbps when the exede installs I've been doing is getting at least 12?

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I actually wondered this myself. Now just because they are advertising 10Gbps doesn't mean that your speeds may not go higher at some points. We have been putting in Excede and have had customers with speeds up to 23Mbps.

As for those of you saying that this is still not good enough compared to your other options, Dish is admitting that in some areas with cable and DSL they may not be as fast. There are still plenty of cities in the US that don't have very many options and this may be a viable solution.

HughesNet and WildBlue were really not that great of a service in the past in my opinion. Since they have launched new satellite and increased their speeds it really has been a lot better. We rarely get complaints now about speeds.
 
I actually wondered this myself. Now just because they are advertising 10Gbps doesn't mean that your speeds may not go higher at some points. We have been putting in Excede and have had customers with speeds up to 23Mbps.

As for those of you saying that this is still not good enough compared to your other options, Dish is admitting that in some areas with cable and DSL they may not be as fast. There are still plenty of cities in the US that don't have very many options and this may be a viable solution.

HughesNet and WildBlue were really not that great of a service in the past in my opinion. Since they have launched new satellite and increased their speeds it really has been a lot better. We rarely get complaints now about speeds.

Both Excede (Wild Blue) and Jupiter (Hughesnet) are great products now compared to what they were before. I think their market shares will increase greatly over the next few years, and good for them. However, their highly restrictive bandwidth caps have not changed enough to warrant marketing them for anything involving video streaming. This is what Dish Network / DishNET is doing, and will do, until someone sues them.

No one streams full "uncompressed" Blu Rays by the way. Most HD "Blu Ray" ripped movies floating around on the web are 3 to 6 Gigs, depending.
 
I have some additional notes for the broadband deal.

- dishNET offers customers high monthly data caps. A customer's monthly data usage is separated into Anytime (24 hours a day) and off-peak usage (2a.m. to 8a.m. local time only). For example, with the 20GB data cap packages, 10GB is designated for Anytime use and 10 GB for off-peak.

- If a customer uses all their Anytime data their download speeds will be throttled for the remainder of their billing cycle except between 2a.m. and 8a.m. (if they have not yet reached their off-peak data cap).

- If a customer uses all their off-peak data the data used between 2 a.m. and 8 a.m. will be pulled from their remaining Anytime data cap until the end of their billing cycle.

- Additional capacity: Beginning early December 2012, additional capacity "tokens" will be available for purchase by dishNET customers. These tokens will provide additional Anytime data cap allowance for the customer's current billing period.

- Customers will be able to track their data usage using their dishNET email account and customer online account.

- Tokens are purchased via a Dish Customer Service Agent or through their customer account on www.mydish.com

- $25 per token = 3GB
 
I have some additional notes for the broadband deal.

- dishNET offers customers high monthly data caps. A customer's monthly data usage is separated into Anytime (24 hours a day) and off-peak usage (2a.m. to 8a.m. local time only). For example, with the 20GB data cap packages, 10GB is designated for Anytime use and 10 GB for off-peak.

- If a customer uses all their Anytime data their download speeds will be throttled for the remainder of their billing cycle except between 2a.m. and 8a.m. (if they have not yet reached their off-peak data cap).

- If a customer uses all their off-peak data the data used between 2 a.m. and 8 a.m. will be pulled from their remaining Anytime data cap until the end of their billing cycle.

- Additional capacity: Beginning early December 2012, additional capacity "tokens" will be available for purchase by dishNET customers. These tokens will provide additional Anytime data cap allowance for the customer's current billing period.

- Customers will be able to track their data usage using their dishNET email account and customer online account.

- Tokens are purchased via a Dish Customer Service Agent or through their customer account on www.mydish.com

- $25 per token = 3GB

That's expensive plus the caps are so small that streaming is out of the question for most. We use 2-3 GB per day.
 
This is just an ongoing process of Dish working on a nationwide broadband service. Just another step towards their goal.
 

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