The Future of SatelliteGuys Announcement

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Scott Greczkowski

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On last nights Satellite Nation I made the announcement regarding the future of SatelliteGuys and I announced that I will be closing SatelliteGuys on Monday morning and we will be moving SatelliteGuys off of the vBulletin platform over to the new XenForo platform.

The idea to move off of vBulletin has been one I have been thinking about deeply for a few months now, and its been bugging me so much that it has affected my health and sleep. SatelliteGuys is not a job for me it is my baby and I take great pride in running it for you. I know how people hate change and I was worried by upsetting our members by moving to new software. But in talking with our Pub Members / Supporters they agreed it was time to move to a new software.

We started using vBulletin 4 back in 2010 and it has served us well, but now it is unsupported and is no longer being updated. Over the past 6 months there have been a lot of security issues with the software which has forced me to turn off some of the features all members have had. In addition the back end software that the servers run could not be upgraded as this software we run now wouldn't work correctly and throw off error messages which is something we would not want.

In addition the platform is not using the more modern web coding techniques and is bloated, it also offers very poor search engine optimization. Because of this SatelliteGuys was sandboxed by Google and our search engine ranking and number of posted indexed declined greatly, causing both a huge loss in traffic and revenue to the site. While there hasn't been much to talk about it in the way of satellite over the past few months the biggest hit we got was the traffic coming in from people searching for information.

As I mentioned this has been bugging me for a few months now the question was in my mind "what do we do."

So after a lot of thought, headaches and sleepless nights I came to the folks who have believed in SatelliteGuys and me enough to give money to help support the site... our Pub Members and Supporting founders. And I asked them for their advice and I got to admit... I was honestly surprised with their answer when they told me they thought we should move to a new platform. I thought most would be against it, as I know how much people hate change.

I set up a special test site for the people to try the new software and the feedback has been amazing. I worked hard to give the new software the SatelliteGuys look and feel you guys know and love.. Its not 100% perfect but close enough for most everyone. :)

So this Monday SatelliteGuys will be closing sometime early Monday Morning and will remain closed as I perform the upgrade. As the upgrade happens you can listen to SatelliteGuys Radio and I will provide live updates on how things are going. (BTW... shameless plug... This Memorial Day Weekend SatelliteGuys will be playing 70's Music all weekend long!) Anyways you can listen for live updates. Once I have the vBulletin Database converted and imported into the new software I will open the site to Pub Members / Supporting Founders only. This will allow our supporters o do the first kick of the tires and let me know what needs fixing and adjusting. With the new software there are a million permissions and settings I must set and the Pub Members can help me with this. There will be a special new forum setup to report upgrade issues. Once we have the majority of them fixed then we will open up the site to the world.

Now in our testing everything will carry over except for two things.... your "likes" and the FTA Forum File Section. The reason the likes will not carry over is because "likes" is not a built in feature of vBulletin 4, it was an add on and the importer does import these likes... (there were a number of different "like" add on available. To try supporting them all in the importer would be a nightmare for the coders. Just like the "likes" system the FTA Forum File Section uses an add on and there is no converter available to it. If you want files from the FTA Forum File Section grab them before Monday.

Some features we have are not in the new software, with the biggest being New Posts by Section (i.e. New Post in DISH Forums, New Posts in DIRECTV Forums... etc.) But I am working on something and hopefully have a solution by Monday.

One thing that "should" work is all of your links that you have bookmarked. I have been given special code which "should" redirect those links to their new URL. I have been unable to test this code because of the way our test environment., but others tell me it works well.

When you are on the new software you will notice some new features. In XenForo Private Messaging is now called "Conversations" and these conversations allow you to have private easy to follow forum like conversations instead the current PM system which is like sending an email back and forth. This means no more needing to quote what was said in the last message.

There are some other new features... but I am not going to go into them here. I want you to find them on your own... :)

Folks I know people hate change, but as the Pub Members have finally beat into my brain, we are not making this move because we want to... we are doing it because we have to.

I thank everyone for their support in this move.
 
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As was stated in the PUB it is time and once the conversion is complete many will wounder why it didn't happen sooner. Good luck and "enjoy" your weekend!
 
Six months from now you will be wondering why you took so long to make this move ;) SatelliteGuys just keeps getting better, and that isn't a trick cause that's what we all want and work towards.
 
I'm glad to hear you are comfortable with this change Scott. You are keeping the site members in mind, which is good, but it's more important that you are okay with this.
 
On last nights Satellite Nation I made the announcement regarding the future of SatelliteGuys and I announced that I will be closing SatelliteGuys on Monday morning and we will be moving SatelliteGuys off of the vBulletin platform over to the new XenForo platform.
Looking at the online demo, XenForo borrows significantly from phpBB.
 
wonder how many posts there will be elsewhere of "did satelliteguys close up? when they cant log on
 
I assume there'll be a banner screen everyone will be redirected to, with an appropriate message.


Posted Via The FREE SatelliteGuys Reader App!
 
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I assume there'll be a banner screen everyone will be redirected to, with an appropriate message.


Posted Via The FREE SatelliteGuys Reader App!

Hopefully with a cool picture, maybe a link to a show clip explaining it or something...
 
wonder how many posts there will be elsewhere of "did satelliteguys close up? when they cant log on
There will be a screen up letting people know whats going on, plus a link to SatelliteGuys Radio as I will be giving updates as things progress. :D
 
I support this move completely! I know how important the Google indexing is to bringing in traffic. If SatelliteGuys has lost 2/3 of the Google indexing we are losing serious exposure to the World! I expect a little learning curve with the new layout, but I am more than happy to adjust if this reduces your stress level and gives SatelliteGuys more exposure!

Step #1 - Survive through a few hours of no SatelliteGuys Forum access on Monday.... :coffee
 
The only constant is change. I would rather be inconvenienced than be threatened by security holes being exploited. Godspeed....

BTW, don't forget the backroom... Lol
 
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Actually phpBB borrowed a lot from vBulletin.

XenForo is written by the guys who originally wrote vBulletin. :)
To my eyes, XenForo looks much more like phpBB than it does vBulletin. XenForo just adds a lot of polish to some things; oddly a lot of it seems to be in the admin area.

XenForo seems to consume vast quantities of screen real estate in its default configuration -- a beef I have with IP.Board. I guess that's why people get so excited about forum reading software for devices.
 
so when will the site return after the switch over from vBulletin to XenForo is complete. will it be back Monday night, or Tuesday Morning, i hope it's back before the Wednesday Dish Uplink report happens.
 
Looks like my avatar of Robbie and Altaira came through. You never see the Krell...
 
Looks good! I noticed the change since I usually log in with Forum Runner on my phone and it told me you down down -- but then came here and noticed the software changed; it still reports your down though. Hopefully XenForo supports the Forum Runner plug-in -- I don't want this to be the only forum I can't follow on my phone easily! :)
 
It will take some getting used to but I think it will be fine.
 
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