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8PSK Conversion Update as of 6/9/15
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anything other than these won't work 311/311k/322/512/522/625/ VIP and Hoppers
WHOOP! WHOOP!
Hopper police on the way!
Let loose the Marketing Guys on his wife!
Fire off the discounts!
All hands to Battle Stations!
Hopper police on the way!
Let loose the Marketing Guys on his wife!
Fire off the discounts!
All hands to Battle Stations!
I still don't think it's worth the cost increase over a 722 unless you have a family watching and need more tuners and joeys.
Edit: maybe if Dish got off their a$$ and provided guide data for all locals and subchannels with the OTA module, but its too hot for you know what to freeze over so I don't see that happening. Plus my opinion is there's not enough content worth paying for as it is on subscription TV.
Edit: maybe if Dish got off their a$$ and provided guide data for all locals and subchannels with the OTA module, but its too hot for you know what to freeze over so I don't see that happening. Plus my opinion is there's not enough content worth paying for as it is on subscription TV.
I have used both, the 722 was a good receiver, once you use the Hopper though, I wouldn't see many going back. If you have 722 series and are happy though, I wouldn't see a reason to switch.
I know it's off topic, but allow me to say that I would get a Hopper IF I got a upgrade without contract extension and IF I don't have to run new coax over my siding. I once ran new 2.3GHZ coax down my south wall and put siding over it and I like the clean look.
I know some people might think I want everything for free, but consider I'm a AEP customer since 2003 and out of contract since 2005 and I always paid my bill on time and never needed a service call. I replaced an 1000.2 LNBF myself once and that's it.
So since there is competition out there, there should be a way to work with me IF I was interested.
I know some people might think I want everything for free, but consider I'm a AEP customer since 2003 and out of contract since 2005 and I always paid my bill on time and never needed a service call. I replaced an 1000.2 LNBF myself once and that's it.
So since there is competition out there, there should be a way to work with me IF I was interested.
If you REALLY want a Hopper out of contract, look on eBay and get a new one, or a good used one. That wouldn't put you in a contract. Otherwise, even though you are a good customer, and I can empathize with your point and principle, I can also see Dish's point by placing customers into a contract to get one for free. They have to be able to ensure they can recoup the cost for that free equipment. Contracts really don't bother me, I'm going to have the service anyway. Same with cell phones, at least for me.
Will the local channels on the spotbeams on 110 and 119 also be converted to 8PSK? Or is this conversion only for national channels?
I know it would have pissed off a lot of the laggards that haven't taken advantage of the swap out and still have QPSK only equipment (although there shouldn't be very many), but to get everybody to change out ASAP, you'd have thought they would have did locals first.
Locals really do not need to be converted to 8PSK. They are on spot beams, so when your locals are converted, space is not freed up for more national channels.
Now it could be possible for Dish to improve the picture quality by allocating more bandwidth to the locals with the switch to 8PSK, so you might get a better picture.
The other issue is what equipment is needed at the uplink center for the conversion. Dish might not want to spend the money to convert locals if it costs a lot.
Now it could be possible for Dish to improve the picture quality by allocating more bandwidth to the locals with the switch to 8PSK, so you might get a better picture.
The other issue is what equipment is needed at the uplink center for the conversion. Dish might not want to spend the money to convert locals if it costs a lot.
Wasn't Dish at one point going to put the Weather Channel "Weather Scan" channel for each set of locals? I thought maybe the reason they didn't was that they ran out of space on spotbeams. Or maybe if they don't have space nationally for RSN's HD 24/7 that they would put the local RSN's on spot beams in HD 24/7. And yes, subchannels. But as stated above, we know that won't happen. Just thinking out loud what could be done with more space on spotbeams.
If they did convert the spot beams they could probably increase SD picture quality (HD locals are already 8PSK), probably not a high priority for Dish. Now if they needed the space for things like adding another market then I could see them doing it. Of course if the equipment they have in place is 8PSK ready and it was a simply config change, then I could see them doing it, but if it is a new box I can see them putting it off, after all they will have a bunch of spare boxes from the national conversion...
While I understand all of this I worry about the older generation who just want TV. I cannot recall one piece of mail, one commercial or any email or update indicating Dish was making these changes. And the comment " well Dish has or is informing everyone" is patently false.
