New Hybrid LNB coming Dec. 10

[Troch77]

Well it already can't work with *all* DPP equipment since it only has two outputs. You couldn't hook it up to a DPP switch. And given the documentation we've already seen, it's fairly obvious that the way this new LNB works is by cramming all of the circuitry of a Duo Node into the LNB. Now, it is possible for it to default to "DPP mode" until it sees some signal from a Hopper, but that seems unlikely given the fact that they still need DPP out there for all of the other reasons I said.

It's possible for them to refurbish 722s and keep reusing them, and of course they'll keep selling them and leasing them as long as they have stock. It's not like they're going to throw them away. Receivers have much more turnover than LNBs, though, and you don't send LNBs back when you cancel service or when you upgrade. There won't be a huge fleet of LNBs coming back to Dish over time. They'll need new ones as time goes on and new installs are done.



It doesn't. You'll need to use a legacy DPP LNB with the DPP switch.

That's okay, I was hoping that if it has 4 outputs, Maybe you can hook up a 211 to the LNB.

 

[Stargazer]

I see a future of the most popular channels being recorded to one transponder just like we see prime time any time. In addition, they could use some of those licensed frequencies to broadcast from one home to an area for others to view programming and other services. Each home could be a repeater to data services and/or each one has its own set of transponder that it records from sends the data wirelessly to other hoppers/wireless devices in the area.

 

[navychop]

So what is the difference between the old tap and splitter - just the location used?

 

[TechWriter]

Just received notice that Dish will be releasing new LNBFs for Hopper installs starting December 10th.

Any idea of the required frequency rating of the coax between the DPH LNBFs & a Hub?

 

[Stargazer]

Probably the same requirement as before which I believe was 3 ghz.

 

[Scherrman]

I don't have many more details on it at the moment.

 

[brad1138]

I think it is unfortunate that the hubs weren't also built into the lnb. Then you would just need taps and splitters. But it is a step in the right direction. This doesn't answer anything about the rumored 16 tuner 4K Hopper being introduced next year. It definitely couldn't be run off this dish.

 

[Troch77]

Is there any chance for a new Dish, like maybe a larger one to go with that new LNB?
The Eastern arc could benifit from a larger Dish.
They should have made all dishes 1000.4 and phase out the 1000.2

 

[MikeD-C05]

Is there any chance for a new Dish, like maybe a larger one to go with that new LNB?
The Eastern arc could benifit from a larger Dish.
They should have made all dishes 1000.4 and phase out the 1000.2

They had started that back a few years back and made an eastern arc lnb for the 1000.4 dish, then reversed the whole thing. Now they have decided that they would phase out the 1000.4 dish and use the 1000.2 dish for both arcs with different lnbs. I have used both dishes and the 1000.2 sat dish with the new double lnb is easier to install than the 1000.4 dish. I have the old 1000.4 dish at my house for eastern arc that I installed back in 08 ,still working great. I also have the 1000.2 dish with the new double lnb for eastern arc at my Dad's house that I installed. I see little difference in strengths ,but it took very little time to install it compared to the 1000.4 dish, which took me about an hour ,due to the different parts I had never used : elevation rod, azimuth cam etc.

 

[JosephB]

I think it is unfortunate that the hubs weren't also built into the lnb. Then you would just need taps and splitters. But it is a step in the right direction. This doesn't answer anything about the rumored 16 tuner 4K Hopper being introduced next year. It definitely couldn't be run off this dish.

The hub is nothing more than a tap itself, though. The solo hub is just a tap with a built in splitter on the client side, and the duo hub is two taps with the client side bridged together.

It's actually more efficient to use hubs instead of taps, since for the client side it's the same as a three port splitter instead of a two port (tap) + another two port, which would result in more loss.

 

[sam1070]

Will we be able to order and do the upgrade are self

 

[ChadT41]

Likely from a retailer. I don't think regular customers have been able to just order and install an LNB from Dish, directly, since they have started their professional install options.

 

[Hall]

WOW, that's lots of folks that haven't hopped on to the Hoppers yet.

That number is HUGE. Over 40% of their customers have the latest set-top. Considering Dish doesn't proactively replace hardware, that's an amazingly high number.

 

[ChadT41]

That number is likely different now, after the QPSK conversion. I know most just went or are going to a 311/211, but there is a number of folks that use it as their opportunity to get a free commitment.

 

[navychop]

Will we be able to order and do the upgrade are self

If what POSSIBLE value would that be?

 

[dangue]

If what POSSIBLE value would that be?

I suspect the value would be installing purchased for the next gen receiver(s) without incurring any sort of renewed 24 month commitment or having to pay for an installer?

 

[JosephB]

I suspect the value would be installing purchased for the next gen receiver(s) without incurring any sort of renewed 24 month commitment or having to pay for an installer?

How would this LNB change that from the current setups? If that is possible with the new LNB, it's possible with the old LNB and the Solo/Duo nodes. Those can be purchased from Solid Signal, Amazon, eBay, etc all day long.

 

[JSheridan]

If what POSSIBLE value would that be?

I think that's the same guy who posted about a tech block on his account.

 

[Troch77]

Will we be able to order and do the upgrade are self

I'm sure at some point Solid Signal will sell these, as well as Ebay.
So yes I would think if we wanted to upgrade "OURselves" we could.

 

[Foxbat]

I am looking to update my ViP system with HWS + SuperJoey, but I'm holding off until these new Hubs are available. However, I have an EA Dish 1000.4 so it sounds unlikely I'd be a candidate for the new hardware.