What is Orby TV?????

How can this compete with streaming? I realize they have low overhead because the customer bears the cost of the receiver and installation, but they still have the uplink expense.
 
The DVR service costs extra...


How much is DVR service?

DVR service is $4/month if you have a programming package and $12/month by itself, if you just want to record local channels. All taxes are included in our prices!
 
How can this compete with streaming? I realize they have low overhead because the customer bears the cost of the receiver and installation, but they still have the uplink expense.
On the economy of scale, each satellite subscriber reduces the distribution cost per customer. For streaming, each customer is an increase in the distribution cost.
 
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ahh ok. I looked again and all I see is this in the FAQ, no mention of additional receiver fees so it makes me wonder if additional receivers are full price?
I gathered there was no receiver fee since it mentioned you owned the whole system. (and no fee listed)
 
How can this compete with streaming? I realize they have low overhead because the customer bears the cost of the receiver and installation, but they still have the uplink expense.

It can't. This would be for people that don't have access to standard high-speed internet, OR have satellite internet that's very limited.
 
On the economy of scale, each satellite subscriber reduces the distribution cost per customer. For streaming, each customer is an increase in the distribution cost.

Very true, but the up-front costs are much higher for satellite than streaming video. Also, due to the way commercial bandwidth/CDN contracts work, the more you commit to, the less you pay per amount transferred. So, the more your customer base grows, the less it costs you to serve your customers on a per-customer basis. I am unsure at which point(s) the economics favor one or the other. Also, content acquisition costs apparently make up a disproportionate amount of the total for on-demand streaming, and I am unsure if/how that comes into play here or not.
 
Actually a lot of it is up there in FTA still. ;) They havent encoded everything yet. Looks like a work in progress.
My point is that when it is up and running, it won't be FTA -- it will be competing with satellite and, in a majority of cases, pay OTT services. So how big is the market for mini-OTT offerings for those without broadband? Maybe in the tens of thousands?

It reminds me of the HDHomerun Premium TV channel lineup right up to requiring OTA access for local channels.
 
It's another VOOM HD satellite type setup, and we all know what happened to that. I don't see this lasting long, the buy-in costs are just too much.

I could be wrong, but we'll know fairly soon, I'm sure of that.
 
Very true, but the up-front costs are much higher for satellite than streaming video. Also, due to the way commercial bandwidth/CDN contracts work, the more you commit to, the less you pay per amount transferred. So, the more your customer base grows, the less it costs you to serve your customers on a per-customer basis. I am unsure at which point(s) the economics favor one or the other. Also, content acquisition costs apparently make up a disproportionate amount of the total for on-demand streaming, and I am unsure if/how that comes into play here or not.
If you lease the satellite bandwidth via linkbudget and use a 3rd party uplink service, the distribution cost is fixed. Doesn't matter if the 20 channels are unlinked for 1, 10k or 100k.

The bandwidth for this service is likely about $250k per month. Based on current distribution contracts for small providers, approx. 60% of their package cost will probably be for programming. Doesn't take too many customers at $20 to break even. In their case, I would guess that point to be at or less than 10k subscribers.

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Did you guys notice that no sports channels thats why they are so cheap. Plus no local channels without an antenna. The bill would be 3 times higher for espn.
 
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It's another VOOM HD satellite type setup, and we all know what happened to that. I don't see this lasting long, the buy-in costs are just too much.
The difference being that VOOM HD's own channels were commercial-free and had lots of exclusive HD content back when HD was the Holy Grail. It seems like this will be the same thing everyone else already gets with a large up-front hit to the wallet.

Now if they were to offer all of those channels in UHD, there might be some parallels.

How will they succeed where VOOM HD failed so many years ago?
 
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If you lease the satellite bandwidth via linkbudget and use a 3rd party uplink service, the distribution cost is fixed. Doesn't matter if the 20 channels are unlinked for 1, 10k or 100k.

The bandwidth for this service is likely about $250k per month. Based on current distribution contracts for small providers, approx. 60% of their package cost will probably be for programming. Doesn't take too many customers at $20 to break even. In their case, I would guess that point to be at or less than 1k subscribers.

Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed it was that low. I'd estimate about 1/4 that cost to spin something up on AWS and have a minimum bandwidth commitment on a CDN, depending on how much risk you were willing to by signing a multi-year commitment. If you add in software development costs, it might get to 1/2 of the satellite service. As you said originally, the costs for the satellite service would remain fixed though, so at some point it should become more profitable than streaming.
 

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