I get your frustration, as you get the same thing just watching videos on the regular YouTube app. It works, but certainly not as quick as Skip Forward/Back on Dish.
FOX Dispute?
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I get your frustration, as you get the same thing just watching videos on the regular YouTube app. It works, but certainly not as quick as Skip Forward/Back on Dish.
I am just saying that $7 per month annual increases (last time going from $22.99 per month to $29.99 per month) are not sustainable for the lowest-priced package Dish offers. Something has to give, and the local channels seem to be the biggest factor (by far) driving the price increases.
When Welcome Pack was first introduced, Welcome Pack and the Locals were completely separate packages, that could be bundled together for a discount. I am saying that the forced bundling of the locals with Welcome Pack never should have happened in the first place, and Dish should get back to giving us the options that we had before the forced bundling occurred.
Yes they should. Hopefully that's what they're fighting for this time.
So you think they're fighting Fox over the forced bundling on the Welcome pack, but having optional locals for all other packages Fox doesn't have a problem with?
No, I think Fox is fighting the optionals that currently exist, I'm only wishing for more.
The problem is that Dish likes to throw around the term "forced bundling" in these press releases, but what does that really mean? Do they mean forced bundling of the national and local channels in the same package, or in the same contract? (In other words, the content provider might not be trying to force all of the channels to be bundled together in the same programming package. Instead, Dish is saying that if the two sides can reach an agreement on rates (and other terms) for some of the channels, then a deal for those channels should be struck and those channels should stay on, instead of being held up by negotiations for other channels. However, the wording in the press release can be interpreted to mean that the programmer is trying to force every subscriber to pay for all of the channels involved.) This same confusion over the meaning of "forced bundling" arose in the discussion here about the Tribune dispute a few years ago, where they only had one national channel (WGN America) involved in the dispute. The speculation was that Tribune was trying to get WGN America forced into the Welcome Pack and the locals add-on pack. Not only did that not happen, but it turned out that WGN America's inclusion in the Flex Pack (when the Tribune channels returned) was actually a mistake on Dish's part, which they corrected soon afterwards. So, Tribune did not gain any new package placement for WGN America, and the fight over "forced bundling" was likely just Dish objecting to negotiations for carriage of the channel being included in the same contract as the locals.
3 on this, one on the Sinclair FSNs. But the discussion has blended with all 4 of them.At least 3.
I will jump off the nearest Fair
i wiull jump off the nearest Fairfax County water tower when it gets to 5.
At least 3.
i wiull jump off the nearest Fairfax County water tower when it gets to 5.
I am getting a lot of likes since I discussed suicide.
I'm firmly convinced that our county has ground level water "towers", because I do not see many big/tall water towers all over the place. I did a big search of Fairfax Water and never did find a map of their water towers. But if you're right, they must be there in some form
Yes this is quite obviously as what DISH is calling it in this instance. FOX is bundling locals with cable channels. From the FOX perspective they are (likely) saying they own all those properties and are selling them together just as other companies do. The problem is Locals have very specific rules including negotiating rules, they should not be allowed to be bundled.(In my opinion and of course the opinion of DISH)
That is not correct. WGN America is a Nextstar group station. And Nexstar was indeed insisting WGN with an increase be included with their channels. DISH countered that WGN wasn't what it was, lost baseball and at the time had little original programming. DISH said they didn't need the channel. So there is no confusion on bundling.
It was bundling then, it's bundling now, insisting all channels be carried to carry any. If there was talk of the Welcome pack or the Flex pack that sounds like speculation here.
They are large and elevated but for all I know some are invisible. It was meant as a joke on me but I am glad you did not take it as one on you. I still say that one day we have to have a Satelliteguys DC party
We've had Ct ones and they were fun! (At Scott's house)
I might come to yours, if invited! Do it sooner rather than later, I'm not getting any younger...
Do it sooner rather than later, I'm not getting any younger... 
