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And you settling for BAD CRACK and willfully paying for it! :confused:

Hello... I can watch most of these channels in standard def. All you are paying for is maybe one third of real, native HD programming on SOME of the channels. Everything else badly upconverted, it looks better in SD. I'm not bitter, I just don't understand paying more for maybe 30% of real HD...

Actually, if I'm going to PAY extra for HD, I'd like it to be HD. If more than half of the programming is not native HD than don't charge me anything extra for it. I know when you are all drinking the Kool Aid it's hard to come to terms with reality. Enjoy those grainy "HD" movies, and all of...

Uhm, Yes really. If you buy this HD pitch, I guess you'll be buying that swamp land too. Not sure where you are coming from.

I thought Sat Guys were savvy tech people? You guys are getting all wet about all of these HD channels. Do you really think all of these channels are HD? Or just feeding SD to a big screen and calling it HD? How can all of these channels have already amassed HD libraries? Biography HD? ABC...

There is no way VH1, MTV and CMT will be able to deliver real HD channels. If you are okay with a network or provider (Direct TV) telling you a channel is HD when it's mostly upcoverted, bad looking SD programs, good for you. I call it misleading at best and lying at worst. What do you think...

Not a valid question The question does not warrant a yes or no answer. Whatever the question is trying to prove can not be proven. Is SD supposed to validate the programming? It doesn't. HD is a new medium and some things are much better in HD than they are in SD. So if you answer "No" it...

MHD is a commercial channel, they live and die by the ratings. It won't be very long until they go the way of every other MTV Network and abandon music totally for those crazy freak shows. Can't wait to see Flava Flav in HD. Not!

No Comparison I have both services. I have to tell you there is no comparison. Rave is so far ahead of MHD. MHD has been playing the same rehashed programs as long as I have had them on my system. I posted this once before, if you think Rave has a high repetition factor then you SHOULDN'T see...

Get your facts before you jump to conclusions about who is responsible for HD lite. There are two players involved in this discourse Voom and Dish. All someone needs to do is contact both. Has anyone done that already? This topic has been discussed here for a long time, someone must have done...

Don't spread lies. Justify that.

Your arguments are revisionist. Premiere means NEVER BEEN SEEN ANYWHERE BEFORE. Movies on HD Net,outside of the few orignals, HAVE ALL BEEN SEEN ON TV BEFORE. Tom Petty and Depeche Mode were on Rave recently. They were premieres. Never seen before. Your stats are bogus too. ESPN HD is not...

I recently got MTV HD on my system. I'm assuming you have not seen MTV HD or MHD. It's terrible. If you think Rave has repetition this will make your head spin. Plus as I said earlier, they air music videos in SD with bars on the sides. Everyone seems to be complaining about lack of new...

It is. I had Voom when it was it's own system, the picture quality was perfect. Okay, at first they had a few kinks to work out, but they got it down. I would bet the house that you are correct.

Got a problem with HD lite - call Dish. Voom is HD. Upconverted SD is not HD.

Dude, you could not be more wrong. Every Voom original channel premieres more than 20 hours every Quarter! Do the math. Plus you complain of repetition, maybe you would prefer if they played 12 hours a day of standard def with bars on each side? Or how about upcoverting SD (which looks like...

Why MHD? Does Dish really need MHD? They have Rave HD, more concerts and no commercials.

Yup. That is ONE of the few music videos that was shot in native HD. There are also animated videos like those from the Gorillaz, but you can count them on one hand, maybe two. I know because I have a friend who works in the music business in video production. The record labels do not want to...

Dish has Rave HD, they are the first, they have a great line up of concerts and series and they continually add new programs. I'm still curious about music videos. It seems like there aren't many produced in HD, so I don't know what they are playing at MHD. I wouldn't be happy with and HD...

Are you sure the videos on MHD are really in 1080 HD or 24p and not upconverts from SD? I know a few people in the music business and when I ask about HD videos they tell me they are too expensive to produce, videos in general are too expensive to produce and the labels are cutting on back. I...

Please elaborate, what was impressive about MHD? Just want to know waht I'm missing. Is there little repetition? Are their music videos in HD? Are they playing all music or reality junk?

Here you go, I found the release; SOUNDSTAGE: RAVE has also inked a deal to become the exclusive high-definition home to the seminal concert series Soundstage. Part of the RAVE HD line-up since 2004, airing of the series has, until now, followed the broadcast premiere on PBS. But beginning in...

I don't want to get into an argument, but there was a release put out that stated this, ( I found it somewhere on the web.) and I have not seen Robert Plant, Garbage or Fountains of Wayne on my PBS station, nor have I seen them in their listings. This could be a new deal where previously you may...

You are correct, but the Soundstage programs premiere on Rave. I have seen new Soundstage programs on Rave this year that I have yet to see on PBS. Rave has them first and sometimes way ahead of PBS.

HD Music Hi Guys/Gals, I'm new to SG, been trolling for a while and just decided to register. I have been a Voomer almost since the start. I really like music and have been into Rave HD for some time, but I do like the other Voom channels too. I know a little about MHD, while it will will...