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Greetings everyone. This is my first post on SatelliteGuys. My name is Tom and I very new to this hobby. I have in the past been a DirectTV subscriber and I'd probably still be with them had they not burned me. But that's another subject.


I have been researching this FTA stuff on and off for a while. My interests were re-sparked a month ago with an article in Monitoring Times magazine titled "Do-It-Yourself Satellite Radio" written by Ken Reitz, KS4ZR. I listen to a lot of radio both local and distant AM stations as well as shortwave. I know that shortwave stations such as Deutsche Welle and Radio Netherlands among others are on FTA satellite. I'm ready to explore this new world of FTA but I do have a few unanswered questions some of you fine folks might be able to answer. So here goes.


Dish size – Most sites I look at offer an 80cm dish as "standard" and 90cm an an "upgrade". Some mention that the 90cm Ku dish is "recommended" for people living in the northeast and northwest portions of the U.S. I live in central New Mexico, Albuquerque to be precise. Would an 80cm dish perform adequately in my location? The difference in cost is only $20 or so to go with a 90cm. Cost is not an issue, my two concerns are WAF and wind loads. It can get pretty windy here especially in the spring. I will be motorizing the dish is that makes a difference in your recommendations.


NASA TV – I love watching NASA TV during shuttle missions. I usually watch on my computer but the quality isn't the best. Plus it's less comfortable then being in my recliner or on the couch in my home theater room. I understand that the Dish Networks bird @ 119W broadcasts NASA TV FTA. I also understand that being a DBS satellite the polarization is circular. I'm thinking that I need to use something like an Invacom QPH-031 LNB and a switch so I can receive linear and circular polarized signals at the same time. Am I on the right path? Also this particular model has 2 extra ports that I probably won't be using. Is there another LNB model that only has one linear and one circular output?


Sports – I love watching the NFL. In fact that was one of my main reasons for going with DirectTV due to their NFL Sunday ticket offering. Well I don't have that anymore. Are there NFL viewing opportunities on FTA?


Satellite angle – This is a curiosity question. Let's say for my location I need to angle my dish @ 45 degrees according to one of the many calculators on the web. Being that the dish uses an offset LNB is the satellite actually a little higher than that?


Re-using an old DBS dish – I have an old Sony 18" dish that I've used for many years with DirecTV. I'd like to have satellite radio hooked up to a 2 channel stereo in my home office. Can I get an inexpensive or second hand receiver, hook it up to my old 18" dish and get the music channels for my stereo? Alternatively I'd like to substitute a FTA computer card for the receiver. Do any of these PC cards work with Linux? For this home office setup I'm interested in audio only.


Too good to be true? - I'm very skeptical of "deals" I see on the internet. Usually if something seems too good to be true it usually is. I'm looking at Pansat receivers. Specifically the 3500 SD because of it's features and it has component output for my flat screen LCD. I read that there are lots of Pansat clones out there. I want to get the best deal I can but don't want to wind up with an inferior product. Any suggestions? Also, what other receivers should I be looking at that are in the same class as the Pansat 3500?


I know that there are a lot of questions here. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.


Tom
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Greetings everyone. This is my first post on SatelliteGuys. My name is Tom and I very new to this hobby. I have in the past been a DirectTV subscriber and I'd probably still be with them had they not burned me. But that's another subject.
welcome :wave to Satelliteguys! Great to have you here :)

I have been researching this FTA stuff on and off for a while. My interests were re-sparked a month ago with an article in Monitoring Times magazine titled "Do-It-Yourself Satellite Radio" written by Ken Reitz, KS4ZR. I listen to a lot of radio both local and distant AM stations as well as shortwave. I know that shortwave stations such as Deutsche Welle and Radio Netherlands among others are on FTA satellite. I'm ready to explore this new world of FTA but I do have a few unanswered questions some of you fine folks might be able to answer. So here goes.
I like you already (no not that way) :D I enjoy shortwave, FTA, and the distant TV & radio signals too :)

Dish size – Most sites I look at offer an 80cm dish as "standard" and 90cm an an "upgrade". Some mention that the 90cm Ku dish is "recommended" for people living in the northeast and northwest portions of the U.S. I live in central New Mexico, Albuquerque to be precise. Would an 80cm dish perform adequately in my location? The difference in cost is only $20 or so to go with a 90cm. Cost is not an issue, my two concerns are WAF and wind loads. It can get pretty windy here especially in the spring. I will be motorizing the dish is that makes a difference in your recommendations.
an 80cm dish would be fine. I use a 76cm dish in Minnesota and get 99% of the signals. The bigger dish might help with those South American satellites that like to beam partially into the southern US

NASA TV – I love watching NASA TV during shuttle missions. I usually watch on my computer but the quality isn't the best. Plus it's less comfortable then being in my recliner or on the couch in my home theater room. I understand that the Dish Networks bird @ 119W broadcasts NASA TV FTA. I also understand that being a DBS satellite the polarization is circular. I'm thinking that I need to use something like an Invacom QPH-031 LNB and a switch so I can receive linear and circular polarized signals at the same time. Am I on the right path? Also this particular model has 2 extra ports that I probably won't be using. Is there another LNB model that only has one linear and one circular output?
you can add a simple DBS LNB for 119. yes NASA is free along with Angel One and the audio channels (mono & CD ones). I have 2 LNB's on my setup. One KU and one DBS.

Sports – I love watching the NFL. In fact that was one of my main reasons for going with DirectTV due to their NFL Sunday ticket offering. Well I don't have that anymore. Are there NFL viewing opportunities on FTA?
yep. There are 3 Fox stations on KU Band so you may get some extra games. C-Band (6 foot or larger dish) has some more but you'd really have to turn on the charm for the WAF ;)

Satellite angle – This is a curiosity question. Let's say for my location I need to angle my dish @ 45 degrees according to one of the many calculators on the web. Being that the dish uses an offset LNB is the satellite actually a little higher than that?
Each angle is different due to location of satellite and you. The satellite at the same longitude as you will be the highest in the sky. Being in NM your elevatinos are MUCh higher than me in MN. Your true south satellite (the one at the same longitude as you) will be probably near 50 elevation whereas in MN its only 38 degrees here. Yes the dishes asre offset sdo they look at 22-27 degrees higher than the dish shows. One of my dishes faces the house yet it gets a great signal :)

Re-using an old DBS dish – I have an old Sony 18" dish that I've used for many years with DirecTV. I'd like to have satellite radio hooked up to a 2 channel stereo in my home office. Can I get an inexpensive or second hand receiver, hook it up to my old 18" dish and get the music channels for my stereo? Alternatively I'd like to substitute a FTA computer card for the receiver. Do any of these PC cards work with Linux? For this home office setup I'm interested in audio only.
yes the 18" dish would be fine for 119. Just aim it there and hook up the receiver and the audio channels (not Sirius) are in the clear.
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Dish size – Most sites I look at offer an 80cm dish as "standard" and 90cm an an "upgrade". Some mention that the 90cm Ku dish is "recommended" for people living in the northeast and northwest portions of the U.S. I live in central New Mexico, Albuquerque to be precise. Would an 80cm dish perform adequately in my location? The difference in cost is only $20 or so to go with a 90cm. Cost is not an issue, my two concerns are WAF and wind loads. It can get pretty windy here especially in the spring. I will be motorizing the dish is that makes a difference in your recommendations.
Go with bigger if you can... but only up to a point... I have a 76cm winegard that works fine and dandy, but fades in rain a lot, especially on g10r 123w. I've heard that some massive dishes are bordering on being too heavy for some motors to handle if you go motorized.

NASA TV – I love watching NASA TV during shuttle missions. I usually watch on my computer but the quality isn't the best. Plus it's less comfortable then being in my recliner or on the couch in my home theater room. I understand that the Dish Networks bird @ 119W broadcasts NASA TV FTA. I also understand that being a DBS satellite the polarization is circular. I'm thinking that I need to use something like an Invacom QPH-031 LNB and a switch so I can receive linear and circular polarized signals at the same time. Am I on the right path? Also this particular model has 2 extra ports that I probably won't be using. Is there another LNB model that only has one linear and one circular output?
Yes, definitely the right path... Go with the 4 port... later, you'll be glad you have those extra ports if you install a dvb card in computer to set up your computer as a pvr or if you use the extra ports for another receiver in another room or something...

Sports – I love watching the NFL. In fact that was one of my main reasons for going with DirectTV due to their NFL Sunday ticket offering. Well I don't have that anymore. Are there NFL viewing opportunities on FTA?
I think so, but am not a huge sports fan, so others may be able to answer better... there are lots of college games on I think... also, live feeds are nice for stuff like superbowl.

Re-using an old DBS dish – I have an old Sony 18" dish that I've used for many years with DirecTV. I'd like to have satellite radio hooked up to a 2 channel stereo in my home office. Can I get an inexpensive or second hand receiver, hook it up to my old 18" dish and get the music channels for my stereo? Alternatively I'd like to substitute a FTA computer card for the receiver. Do any of these PC cards work with Linux? For this home office setup I'm interested in audio only.
Yes, 18 inch will work if all you want is audio off of an echostar (dish network) or bev (bell express vu - Canada's version of dish network) satellite... but going with a bigger dish will be nicer, especially if you hook up a motor so that you can get other stuff besides the echostars and bevs... For going to sterio, you'll need to make sure your speakers or radio or whatever can take dolby digital with the right kind of hookups... If going via dvb card in computer, you should be ok, I think since most dvb card programs convert the dolby in to normal speaker signals that work in computer sound cards...

Too good to be true? - I'm very skeptical of "deals" I see on the internet. Usually if something seems too good to be true it usually is. I'm looking at Pansat receivers. Specifically the 3500 SD because of it's features and it has component output for my flat screen LCD. I read that there are lots of Pansat clones out there. I want to get the best deal I can but don't want to wind up with an inferior product. Any suggestions? Also, what other receivers should I be looking at that are in the same class as the Pansat 3500?
Pansat 3500sd is great... that sd card is really nice for moving files between receiver and computer.

If you do go computer with the 4 port lnb that does L and C... you can hook up like I did and have one L and C go to one switch then to motor and then to receiver and then have other L and C go to second switch then to dvb card in computer (I use DVB World USB Box)... that way the computer and box both are receiving both L and C on both H and V... if you go from lnb to motor to box and that box's IF Out to computer then the computer can only see the H or the V depending on whatever the fta box is set on at that point in time...

I use my computer as a pvr to record mpg files that I later burn to dvd since my wife has to work on weekends but I don't... that way we can watch movies together off of rtn and fox stations on g10r later... it works like a high powered vcr sort of that takes a little hand holding to cut out commercials... If you are interested in dvb cards to do similar sort of stuff, going straight from lnb to computer on two of those ports is pretty important... actually you could just put it on the L and forget about second switch... but it is nice having both L and C on both pansat and the dvb world box in case I want stuff on Echostars or Bev (music, Nasa, etc.) on either...
TRG
TRG
Thanks for the warm welcome and the great advice. I can't wait to get started.

BTW - The company I work for is located in Chaska MN.
TRG
TRG
Pansat 3500sd is great...

I think it's going to be a good choice unless someone convinces me otherwise. I hear sirens and see red flashing lights when I see deals like this though. PANSAT 3500SD FTA DIGITAL SATELLITE RECEIVER - BRAND NEW IN FACTORY BOX
Does anyone know if this company is legit? Sounds fishy to me.
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I think it's going to be a good choice unless someone convinces me otherwise. I hear sirens and see red flashing lights when I see deals like this though. PANSAT 3500SD FTA DIGITAL SATELLITE RECEIVER - BRAND NEW IN FACTORY BOX
Does anyone know if this company is legit? Sounds fishy to me.
:welcome

I would get the Pansat from Mike Kohl at Global Communications:

http://www.global-cm.net/

He also has everything else you need and could give you the best advice on which dish motor etc combo to use in your area for the best results. I bought my Pansat 2700A from Mike. There drop shipped from Panarex (the manufacturer) in California so you know it's brand new.

Once you get into Ku FTA your next step will be to put up a BUD (big dish) There are tons more FTA channels on C band.:)
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:D I enjoy shortwave, FTA, and the distant TV & radio signals too :)


Hey Ice, I've been DXing Tv and radio since about 1970. I got some great Tv DXing done in the late 70's to middle 80's. I got stations from over 1000 miles away on low band VHF. One night in the early 80's I thought I had cable tv (cable wasn't in town yet) I was getting just about every channel number from 2-69 with some stuff from Canada. It was alot of fun:)
M
BTW - The company I work for is located in Chaska MN.

I'm just across the river in Shakopee :)
Anole
The 3500sd is one of the receivers on the short list I'd recommend you look at.
That price sure is attractive for that unit.
I use my American Express card for such purchases, and don't even worry about being taken.

I got a Mercury II from a Canadian firm a few months ago.
It's another receiver on my short list.
Close-out price was around $82? US, delivered to California.
The whole thing is documented in another thread. (sold out)

A lot of the guys on the forum got a killer price on the Coolsat 5000 last year.
More recently, some of us got a lesser-know receiver for under $40
Bargains do happen.
If you are concerned, do some web-searching for the dealer's name and see if there's any negative info about him.

All the name brand receivers mentioned above have blind-scan, and are well though of units - they come highly recommended.

Welcome aboard.

edit:
Oh, I knew I forgot something -
Consider using your 18" dish alone for the radio channels.
And use a cheap FTA receiver , not your computer.
If you insist on getting a DVB card (satellite receiver on a PCI card) or a USB box, you can get help in our PC DVB Discussion area.
I've got both, and keeping 'em separate is useful; not having to learn the nuances of the DVB card setup, will add years to your life. :)
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So I have recently setup Indoor OTA due to drop to Local from Dish, and found out reason why I have such bad signal is my Monitor now none of cable for my monitor near OTA or it cable going to TV, but the TV right above my Monitor maybe not even a foot.

If i have 3 to 2 bars with monitor off said channel for most part of perfectly watchable, but as soon my monitor is ON (show image of desktop or what ever) OTA going to TV halved that 3 to 2 bars become 1 and 2 if I lucky and channels start scrambling alot, and depending on what is being shown on monitor it might out right give no signal, and I can easily restore singal to being bad if change what show on monitor or bring back 3 to 2 bars if I turn monitor off or let it to to standby mode.

I have already disconnect every cable on TV except the OTA cable leaving just that so it not those cable. the Power cable for monitor and DP to DVI cable the monitor is using no where near that OTA cable either.

Any idea on how to fix this? moving my monitor isnt exactly an option neither is moving the tv and moving the OTA to other side room even with long cable dont fix this issue.

I have one those Leaf MoHu antennas 11x3 ones, I had same issue with one gateway mohu antennas the older one too
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Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

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Do you have any splitters or combiners in between the antenna and TV? That can cause issues, especially indoors.

I would get that antenna into the attic or outside if at all possible.

And we need your Rabbitears reception report to really be able to provide answers specific to your location-

no spilter is just for my tv


I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
Jimbo
no spilter is just for my tv


I get I just need to short out the monitor from kill the signal to the tv cause the monitor being on and show image basically castrates signal

I just moved wires around moved power cord away data cord and what not, and some made this issue worse just have my monitor on and show image was enough to just kill signal, I went and moved monitors data cable DP to DVI cable and it came back even if was still spotty at best, now I think it DP to DVI cable I using considering moving seem maninpulate how bad the signal that cable is still no where near OTA cable or any cables going to the tv, the tv and monitor are on the same surge protector though
Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.
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Are these items all Grounded ?
You haven't defeated them ...
Make sure the outlet is grounded as well, if it's nothten nothing else is.
Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog


Sounds like there may be some RF coming from your monitor (presumed to be a computer monitor?) being picked up by the TV's proximity to the monitor.
Move the TV or the computer at least 5 ft away.
If it is cabling to monitor it would show up while the computer is on and whether the monitor is off or on.

Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option

Maybe wrap the monitor in aluminum foil? Just as a test to see if it's radiating RFI that's overwhelming the OTA tuner. Obviously not a viable long-term fix.
worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil
Jimbo
Far as i know they are all ground as surge protector is grounded this particular mode APC PV11V3 has wiring/fualt light that should go on if it not grounded and it not on protection light is green and on too . I not very knowledge about all that electrical grounding so i just go by what it tells me, my other surge protecter has grounded light on I could probably just plug to same outlet this one is to see if actual grounded

Monitor has 3 prog power cord the TV is 2 prog




Sadly moving the monitor (Asus VS248) is not really an option I would have move my entire room which I not about to do. Computer is under desk said monitor is on, but turn the computer off does stop signal from droping so long as monitor is on, as I test that by connecting my ps5 to that and it happened there too

I do know that Moving the DP to DVI cable under desk can and does effect the signal, depending on where that cable is I might have spotty signal or no signal out all with the monitor on. but soon as it is off signal is fine.

The DP to DVI cable is shielded and the coxial cable is a shielded RG6 cable

I will see about moving the monitor 5+ feet way just to see if proximity to tv is issue. but that wont really solve my issue cause moving desk and there for computer and monitor isnt really option


worth try I see what happen when I get hand on some aluminum foil
So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...
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So, the TV is Not Grounded ...
I'm interested to see what happens when you move the TV away from the rest ...
TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are
Can you move the Antenna away from the monitor ?
Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way
Jimbo
TV is fix mounted to wall on metal brackets it can tilt and slide to side that is it it it 8 feet off ground and 55" tv it not getting moved . if it ground issues on TV how how can I fix that? I thought if surge protector is ground so are devices

It TCL 55S515 TV I have 2 of them in house both are 2 prog and most TCL tv I seen are 2 prog maybe there bigge sets are

Antenna is 8 feet away from tv I tried put 10 feet way didnt make difference

If I being honest after NHL Stanley Cup games I will probably stop caring and disconnect the OTA anyway cause I dont watch anything on anyway just my mom does and she attenna on here tv that really not much better it just dont have singal halve issue I have but it would be nice if I could fix,

probably the easy fix would be to get Tablo put antenna in attic like dad thinking of doing run coaxial to tablo and let feed tvs that way
Well, it's grounded up to the Surge Protector anyways ... but if not 3rd prong, it's not grounded ... I don't recall if my TV's have a ground, guess I never thought about it ...
Now ya got me curious, I got to check.

Well, thats interesting, I thought all TV's were grounded ... guess not, maybe they figure if the voltage gets that far, its not going to save the TV ... :(
navychop
Double insulated.
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Double insulated.
yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest
M
yes my tv is double insulated. could that be part of my problem?

I dont even get why my monitor and or the DP to DVI cable is causing this the cable is shield for this stuff yet moving that cable obviously effect the ota signal and simple act of that monitor be on cuts single in half, monitor on but in standby mode is fine, as far as i know computer gpu? is still out puting signal to monitor even when the monitor is standby mode it just dont wake up till the mouse or some input moves

aluminum foil over my monitor did stop the issue or even help in the lest

Something to try. Using an extension plug the TV into a completely different source of AC. Monitor may be feeding noise back into AC.
osu1991
get rid of the monitor and plug the computer into the tv and use it as the monitor :D:cool:
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.😎
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This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations
Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc
N5XZS
Thanks Mr Tony, Hopefully no duplicates and put on like Revin, Karate movies.

It would be nice if they can put a least 2 HD 2 or 3 SD diginets for Albuquerque metro areas.😎🤞
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Here are a few markets with the stations per rabbitears.
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Hope they got good subchannels encoder going there...😎👍🤞
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Can't wait!
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I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers😉) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.

Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.
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I was pretty satisfied by the Finale as well. So many multi-season shows come up short, but this one was well done. The whole season has had a pretty high body count (including some of the executive producers😉) so the tombstone seemed quite appropriate.

Hopefully the Gen V show sticks around a few more seasons.

Gen V was cancelled already. The story of The Boys is over, it's on to the prequel now.

All that buildup in their series and they were called useless, retconned and sidelined in the finale.
MikeD-C05
Wow, Jensen Ackles keeps on getting the roles. And that woman is supposed to be Storm Front I take it. I will watch. I like anything he does from Supernatural to Tracker and the Boys. :smug
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Yeah, Aya Cash returning as Stormfront who was known as Clara Vought / Liberty at that time.
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I wanted Butcher and Homelander to share a prison cell upon waking up after the final battle.

Also didn't like the foreshadowing The Deep's ending. They could have done that so much better. Effectively getting tossed into the ocean by Starlight. The sea life coming towards him, he feels comfort, and starts to escape from the battle. The sealife gets a bit nippy, The Deep is confused... it gets harder and harsher and then The Deep understands what is going on. A little bit of a fearful chase would have been warranted to, because The Deep gets off a bit too easy in my opinion (as much as someone can be in such a brutal ending, I suppose). I thinking he is able to outpace things, and finds a large rock to get out of the water. Sealife bickers with him from the water. The Deep tells them he isn't going back in. From behind, a large walrus gets out of the water, shoves him back in and the feeding frenzy ensues.

Overall a decent show. Guilty of deus ex machina in the end. Homelander ending Homelander would have made more sense, and was the direction I thought they were moving in.

I have little interest in a prequel, and a lot more interest in the power vacuum left with Edgers getting back in control and how he would likely use Vought "for good" to get the tentacles back into the system. The entire policing system having been corrupted by Homelander and Vought. The end is like Return of the Jedi, where the Emperor is dead... but umm... what about the entire Empire that still exists?!
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:
  • Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
  • Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
    • 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
    • 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
    • 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
    • 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
    • 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
    • 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
  • During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
  • Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
  • Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
  • There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
    • At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
    • At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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zippyfrog
Updated the first couple of posts with the listings of the changes.
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!

A couple of pieces of info:
  • Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
  • Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
    • 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
    • 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
    • 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
    • 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
    • 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
    • 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
There are two transponders that have lower than normal SD channels – 110, TP 21 and 119, TP 19. Previously those transponders contained the programming guides that get downloaded from the satellite when the receivers download EPG. I assume that is where the programming guides are still downloaded from, thus less channels there.

When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.

Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
  • During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
  • Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
  • Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
  • There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
    • At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
    • At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?

My home locals come out of Springfield/Decatur/Champaign, IL.
I too have taken noticed they moved to the 110 satellite with the spotbeam of 27. Signal Strength is between 46-47. When they were on 119 satellite I was getting about 43-44 signal strength. Much improvement!

Also my post about MLB Extra Innings. I think it may be due to this transition of satellites between 110 & 119
MLB Extra Innings use to be on 110 Satellite. On my guide it only lists 476-01 Baltimore Orioles but I clicked on it and it says its on Satellite 119 with Transponder 13. Maybe this is the reason for my troubles! Shouldn't of fried my DISH though! DISH owes me LOL! Like I will really see it.

RJ T.
From Illinois

RJ T.
From Illinois
zippyfrog
I appreciate you doing all of this. With me having DISH Outdoors this is excellent for when I travel and have to get other locals. Also what does this mean for the 61.5 satellite?

My home locals come out of Springfield/Decatur/Champaign, IL.
I too have taken noticed they moved to the 110 satellite with the spotbeam of 27. Signal Strength is between 46-47. When they were on 119 satellite I was getting about 43-44 signal strength. Much improvement!

Also my post about MLB Extra Innings. I think it may be due to this transition of satellites between 110 & 119
MLB Extra Innings use to be on 110 Satellite. On my guide it only lists 476-01 Baltimore Orioles but I clicked on it and it says its on Satellite 119 with Transponder 13. Maybe this is the reason for my troubles! Shouldn't of fried my DISH though! DISH owes me LOL! Like I will really see it.

RJ T.
From Illinois

RJ T.
From Illinois
I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.
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I just saw your response and posted on the other thread! In terms of 61.5, I don't have Eastern Arc, and my friend who I used to get Eastern Arc info from no longer has Dish.
That is okay. Its just when I sometimes go east the locals there are on 61.5 and sometimes have to use it. It will be great to only have to use the 110 & 119 satellite. No reason to use the 61.5 unless there is a problem receiving 119 there and most of the time at least for me it doesn't seem to be an issue. Maybe more up in the very northeast part of the US.

RJ T.
From Illinois
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Updated the first couple of posts with the listings of the changes.
Appreciate your doing this!
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
As you may have noticed we are doing a Fund Raiser for SatelliteGuys!

As many of you know I have been paying for a majority of the operation of the site out of my own pocket for awhile now. Now looking at things we have a number of renewals coming up that I could use some help with. These renewals include the license renewal for our Forum Software, Renewal of a number of our add on's the site uses, renewal of domain names etc.

I have set a goal of $400.00 - any extra that comes in will just go to fund the operations of the site. None of the money will go to me (I tried BuyMeACoffee a few months ago, and they denied me saying they do not do business with Satellite Piracy sites... which we are not... hell we host the beta programs for both DISH and DIRECTV here...)

Anyways... if you would like to help out please click the link below.


Thank you in advance. :)
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I planned on removing it today, but then my fathers car broke down and I had to drive him all around to get his stuff done. Then I had a doctors appointment after that which was annoying...

Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old... I hate that. Why ask me. if your going to come back with a smart ass answer.

Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow. :)

And we had more people donate today, thank you! The extra money is going to future expenses since things like add ons don't expire at the same time.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN!
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Anyays I hope to get rid of Tapatalk tomorrow. :)
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Dr asks me if I have had any changes, so I tell him something wrong with me that started a month or so ago and his reply back is, that it sucks to get old

No excuse for a flippant response like that from a doctor! I'd be looking for a different one.
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Tapatalk has been removed.

I have added a new feature which is a work in progress called "Social Feed" which displays the forums Facebook style. Its nice for people who like that, but needs work. But i have been watching this one for awhile and the author is being really responsive to suggestions and adding them. So if you have any please let me know and I can pass them along. :)
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

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Thanks for your understanding. :)
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Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…