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sigjocky
Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hello everyone,
I have had a Uniden SQ590 for years then the analog C band started to evaporate and I had to go buy something that would catch "Bits and Bytes".
I bought a 4dtv and hooked thatto my 10 Ft Scientific Atlanta dish with a Cal Amp Co Roter and Low Noise C LNB.
So far so good.
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Then I started reading about all the fun you guys were having with FTA.
I just purchased a Coolsat 8000 HD TS Combo.
I thought all I would have to do is point the 4D at G4 (99*) switch to the 8000 and do a scan of that bird and magic would happen.
All I get is a message that it has nothing to update.
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So far I can get the Off Air HD local channels (that's a plus)
But not a peep out of the digital sat side of things.
I have an old Cal Amp 31186 KU LNB that I just read "isn't anything to write home about" But if I find a strong sig it should make a picture?
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I think I have the LNB set right at "standard" with a 10750 output.
The book is more than a little vague for using a steerable BUD.

I have trees below G5 West (until winter) and clear sky to W6 East.
I am located in upstate NY.

Right now I am in the state of confusion with a big hole in my knowledge base tyeing this mess all together.
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I don't even know where there is a KU signal I can test on to see if the KU is working at all let alone where to start on C band.
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I have been reading until my eyes are starting to bleed.
One more time please how do I get started here.
Thanks in advance guys,
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Bud Fta

I have Coosat 8000hd "daisy chained" to my 4dtv; here are some suggestions.

First, (particularly for KU) make sure lnb is being powered. In my setup, the lnb is set to 13v/18v. Make sure to do this for each satellite. If the lnb does not power, the 8K will tell you there is nothing to find.

Second, the Coolsat does not have a blind scan. So, after you scan in channels, you will need to go to charts to locate others.

I suggest (http://www.global-cm.net/MPEGlistCBandUS.html). They also list KU band. Also, FTAlist.com. For sports backhauls, check out the Yahoo backhaul group.(http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/backhaul/)

Lyngat is a comprehensive chart.

There is a ton of stuff to find, on C Band and KU band. There are a few HD channels. There are backhaul HD channels, too.

One difference with analog is that you need for the signal at coordinates to be "active" to scan and lock it in.

Using 4DTV designations, I suggest scanning Cband G3, G4, W1 and W4. On the KU side, XO, B6 and the KU side of G6 (K6 on my system).
voomvoom
If your feedhorn has a polarotor (servo motor), then you will have to change the channel on the 4dtv to get the polarity to change. Otherwise, you will only scan one side of the equation. Also, it's my understanding that the CS 8000 doesn't have "Blind Scan", so you may (probably) have to manually enter the frequencies to get them to scan. Here is another site for transponder frequencies:
http://www.lyngsat.com/

Good Luck sigjockey, and Welcome to the Forum !

Al
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Use the Analog Receiver to "fix" on satellites

If possible, use your analog receiver to locate satellites. The 4DTV has that "blackout" feature where there is static or weaki signals ad that makes it harder to use.
sigjocky
You know folks,
Right about now I wish I had a separate position motor controller with a skew controller.
Maybe a computer driven display with arc position and elevation, displayed in degrees.
Something like they have for locating stars with a telescope.
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I have a hunch I don't know what I am doing with all the sub menus when I switch to the CS 8000.
I can't get the scan to populate the list with anything to select for watching.
The instructions say select from the list.
There isn't any.
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I select and peak (with a meter) G4 on the 4D .I Get a great picture.
Switch over to the 8000 (I am using pass through for the moment) and select G4 "C" band side and do an auto scan

What LNB do I tell it I have ? I have been trying standard with a 10750 LO.
Is it asking for the C LNB or the KU LNB (Or depends on what you have bird you have selected to scan) I believe they output the same.
Sure wish I had known about "blind scan" before I bought this rcvr.
Live and learn.
I an so embarrassed and as you can see from my avatar pic. I work with this stuff every day just a different jargon and different equipment.

I know I don't know just how the equip combination I have set up works.
I'll just have to drop back and keep reading.
I just got a thought Is the pass through enabled all the time?

Thanks for the patience.
D
C band lnb setting should be 5150

If I am reading what you wrote correctly, you are using a C/KU system and have attached a Coolsat 8000. The Coolsat is daisy chained or slaved to the 4DTV. That (basically) is my system.

If I am reading you right, the C band LNB should be set to 5150; it is progrmmed into the Coolsat. Just hit "standard" and it will offer you the choices. If you are not getting C band channels, it is probably because you set the lnb to 10750.

The KU lnb should be set to 10750.

You can get a blind scan to go with your system. I ordered a Traxis 3500 to use blind scan. Nice unit; RCA (Yellow cable) video only, with stero and optical difital sound connectors. But it augments thye Coolsat nicely. Shop around as they are reasonably priced.

Once you get the Coolsat set up to register signal, look at the online charts everyone has posted. Then, you can go to manual input and input the parameters for channels which are not included in the preset scans.

Are you using a Diseq switch for the C/KU inputs? If so, make sure on the "DISH" set up that you correctly identify the number of the port connected to C band and KU band.

Also, if you are "splitting" the signal from the 4DTV, make sure it is a high frequence splitter.

Don't get discouraged. Everyone new to this thinks they are making stupid mistakes. Everyone here in here to help! We all want the hobby to grow.

You are not far off and have asked the right question. Even with blind scan, you need to input the correct settings for the lnb.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Throwing It All Away - Genesis
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All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics
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Sweet Miracle - Rush
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
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Dish should use both satellite and internet like they do now for all channels. Use either or or both.... like now but subscribers could choose something like internet only, or sat only, or both.
They have sling tv wich sucks ass it needs a major upgrade
S
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
can you DVR every channel now or is still only certain ones you can DVR
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dishstaller
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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FTA4PA
R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
dfergie
R.I.P. …
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
AZ.
AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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rvvaquero
The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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R.I.P.
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My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
dfergie
Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
M
R.I.P.
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Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
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IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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