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maxmoto
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Why not do this...

Why not convert every thing to MPEG4. That would free up so much room an the satellites. I know this is dreaming, because of having to switch out all the MPEG2 recievers. But, if you wanted more HD space without having to send up another bird, this would be the way to do it. :eureka
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MikeD-C05
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They proposed last summer that the total HD channel conversion to mpeg 4 would be completed by the end of this year. THen it would take 2 - 3 years to convert all mpeg 2sd receivers to mpeg 4. So they are on target so far with the hd channels , at least the Voom channels. I will bet that we hear before the end of the year, that the rest of the hd channels will go mpeg 4 too.
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sdschramm
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Why? Who cares how much more room Dish has on their satellites!

MPEG 4 means they have to COMPRESS the video even more. I can't stand MPEG 4!!!

The MPEG 2 just looks so much better because it is not COMPRESSED as much.

I relay don't see why they should compress it at all. I am paying HD....1080 lines, not 1080 lines being squished into 600 some lines then being stretched back out to 1080 again.
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MikeD-C05 said:
They proposed last summer that the total HD channel conversion to mpeg 4 would be completed by the end of this year. THen it would take 2 - 3 years to convert all mpeg 2sd receivers to mpeg 4. So they are on target so far with the hd channels , at least the Voom channels. I will bet that we hear before the end of the year, that the rest of the hd channels will go mpeg 4 too.
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Do you have more information about this? What do you mean by the rest of the hd channels? I am still getting the old original hd package (espn, hdnets, dsc, tnt) plus hbo and sho. It sure sounds like a huge disincentive to upgrade, and an incentive to drop dish altogether. If I were to buy an expensive mpeg 4 box (my dealer wants $600 for 622, no info on 722 from him), how do I know they won't decide to "brick" it in couple years when the next thing comes along.
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mdonnelly
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Chena said:
Do you have more information about this? What do you mean by the rest of the hd channels? I am still getting the old original hd package (espn, hdnets, dsc, tnt) plus hbo and sho. It sure sounds like a huge disincentive to upgrade, and an incentive to drop dish altogether. If I were to buy an expensive mpeg 4 box (my dealer wants $600 for 622, no info on 722 from him), how do I know they won't decide to "brick" it in couple years when the next thing comes along.
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You don't know. It's an incentive to lease, actually, and a huge disincentive to buy.
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Chena
mdonnelly said:
You don't know. It's an incentive to lease, actually, and a huge disincentive to buy.
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I live in Alaska, and they will not lease boxes to us. I already tried to do the dish n it up upgrade, and was told by the ceo email that I could not get it.
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Chena said:
Do you have more information about this? What do you mean by the rest of the hd channels? I am still getting the old original hd package (espn, hdnets, dsc, tnt) plus hbo and sho. It sure sounds like a huge disincentive to upgrade, and an incentive to drop dish altogether. If I were to buy an expensive mpeg 4 box (my dealer wants $600 for 622, no info on 722 from him), how do I know they won't decide to "brick" it in couple years when the next thing comes along.
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Not sure why you still have the HDPAK unless it is with some International package. Maybe Dish will let you run with HDPAK until these channels get converted to MPEG4. Those are only a few of the HD channels Dish offers. The rest are MPEG4 so you don't know about them.

You need to get a new dealer, 622's can be had for much less than that. You can lease a 622/722 if you don't want to layout the cash up front and get "bricked".

Drop dish? What are you watching your HD on now? Won't dropping Dish "brick" that receiver since MPEG2 HD receivers are going to lose their value? Dish is offering some very good upgrade deals for those with MPEG2 HD receivers right now.
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Chena said:
I live in Alaska, and they will not lease boxes to us. I already tried to do the dish n it up upgrade, and was told by the ceo email that I could not get it.
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Well that stinks. Sorry to hear that.

You should still be able to get a much better deal than $600 for a 622.
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technoguy
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8bitbytes said:
Well that stinks. Sorry to hear that.

You should still be able to get a much better deal than $600 for a 622.
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I got my 622 for $380.00 on ebay ,My 211 I got it for $179.00 brand new ,The costumers that I'm able to install HD(I work for a retailer) they all have to buy their equipment.
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technoguy said:
I got my 622 for $380.00 on ebay ,My 211 I got it for $179.00 brand new ,The costumers that I'm able to install HD(I work for a retailer) they all have to buy their equipment.
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Is this something I can do as a diy? If I were to buy a new box on the internet, will it work with my sw64 switch (don't know about the lnb's, 3 singles)? I have a 510 on "to receiver #1", the semifunctional 6000 I would like to replace on 2, 3&4 empty. Is it just swapping out on the #2 cable, and at some point running another rg6 from 3?

My dealer also wanted me to change my lnb's for $50 each, and a new switch for either: one for $100 or another $225 (maybe $250, our phone doesnt work too well, either :rolleyes:)

thanks
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technoguy
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Chena said:
Is this something I can do as a diy? If I were to buy a new box on the internet, will it work with my sw64 switch (don't know about the lnb's, 3 singles)? I have a 510 on "to receiver #1", the semifunctional 6000 I would like to replace on 2, 3&4 empty. Is it just swapping out on the #2 cable, and at some point running another rg6 from 3?

My dealer also wanted me to change my lnb's for $50 each, and a new switch for either: one for $100 or another $225 (maybe $250, our phone doesnt work too well, either :rolleyes:)

thanks
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Chena
Your legacy sw 64 will work with any of the Vips models available on the market, If your plan is to get a pvr(622,722) you'll need 2 feeds from the switch to make it work, If you are going to buy the 211 will work with a single feed therefore no problem either for you just swap or add this one to your current setup.
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maxmoto said:
Why not convert every thing to MPEG4. That would free up so much room an the satellites. I know this is dreaming, because of having to switch out all the MPEG2 recievers. But, if you wanted more HD space without having to send up another bird, this would be the way to do it. :eureka
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I think a much better solution is to broadcast SD channels in both MPEG2 and MP4 format. Those with MP4 capable receiver will receive the MP4 while the ones with older receivers will get MPEG2. This is a perfect way to migrate to MP4 while maintaining backward compatibility. :-)
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Former member 501
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Not sure why you still have the HDPAK unless it is with some International package. Maybe Dish will let you run with HDPAK until these channels get converted to MPEG4. Those are only a few of the HD channels Dish offers. The rest are MPEG4 so you don't know about them.

You need to get a new dealer, 622's can be had for much less than that. You can lease a 622/722 if you don't want to layout the cash up front and get "bricked".

Drop dish? What are you watching your HD on now? Won't dropping Dish "brick" that receiver since MPEG2 HD receivers are going to lose their value? Dish is offering some very good upgrade deals for those with MPEG2 HD receivers right now.
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I don't know what the current deal is, but they had a good deal to switch receiver for those with the old HDPAK for essentially free up until mid August. Only real requirement was they had to go to the new DISH HD package.
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sdschramm said:
Why? Who cares how much more room Dish has on their satellites!

MPEG 4 means they have to COMPRESS the video even more. I can't stand MPEG 4!!!

The MPEG 2 just looks so much better because it is not COMPRESSED as much.

I relay don't see why they should compress it at all. I am paying HD....1080 lines, not 1080 lines being squished into 600 some lines then being stretched back out to 1080 again.
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Go get a basic understanding of compression, please.
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navychop
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theinv said:
I think a much better solution is to broadcast SD channels in both MPEG2 and MP4 format. Those with MP4 capable receiver will receive the MP4 while the ones with older receivers will get MPEG2. This is a perfect way to migrate to MP4 while maintaining backward compatibility. :-)
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Why? This would waste at least 50% more bandwidth than they use today. And all the MPEG-4 receivers can receive MPEG-2, so there's nothing to be gained by this approach.
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Stargate SG-1 Discussion

Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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long_time_Dish
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reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
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Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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reubenray said:
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.
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If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Defender on Linux: Microsoft’s Big Security Move #shorts

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2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Troy Aikman seems to confirm he'll be leaving ESPN

Aikman says he looks forward to "where my next landing spot will be."
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties

Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.
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Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Here's the one I need:
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Here's the one I need:
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Just ordered one....that's great.
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naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
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I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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RTX Spark: NVIDIA's AI PC Powerhouse Details! #shorts

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
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You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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"You Can See Everything" Is 1 of the Century’s Best #shorts

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Fanta orange soda.
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Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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