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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion
Hey guys,

Looking over the pc dvb section there seems to be quite a few ideas about software, and what you need... And quite frankly the tsreader thingy seems expensive, and complicated. So basicly I would like to know......

What is exactly needed?

This is basicly what I want to do.

1. Since there is no blind scan I will use my fortec to blind scan, then plug in the numbers to my USB reiever.

2. Use this as a PVR

3. Watch 420 & 422

4. If EPG is possilbe that would be great

5 Intragrat with Micro Media Center

6. Spend as less a possible

7. Keep it as simple as possible


What do you recommend?

thanks guys
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dashaund
DVB Dream. I use it right now and I love it. Does everything you want to do listed above that I know of, but I'm not sure about the Media Center. How well? I'm not sure. I know it does the EPG, but I haven't used it. I know it does the PVR recording, but I can't tell you how well. It definitely does 422 and 420. It's free though. And you can use any (well, I think so) codec you want. Get a hold of FFDShow-tryouts for codecs...it's open source and free and if you're computer is fast enough, you won't have to worry about codecs! It does it all and well. TSReader is very cool for it's simplicity and ease of use, but DVBDream is only a few more clicks and it does everything as easy as TSReader, especially with FFDShow. Give it a shot! There are forums there that can help you out if you have any questions.
M
DVB Dream is good software, ASSUMING YOU HAVE A SLIGHTLY HIGH END Enough SPEC COMPUTER TO RUN IT! By High End, I mean something that's probably 2.5 ghz or better with probably 1k ram or better... high end by a few years old standards, probably low end by today's standards. My 1.5 ghz 512 mb ram emachine with a usb2 pci card installed is not high end enough for DVB Dream, at least when using the DVB World Box USB 2 Device. When I used DVB DREAM, it worked fine sometimes, but often gave me lots of issues... for instance I'd often get 0 mb recordings. There were lots of suggestions in here on how to fix my issues, but I've discovered the real issue is that the computer just ain't quick enough to keep up with DVB Dream as a recording device.

I switched to using the Nextorm Software that came with the DVB World Box and ALL IS FINE. I do still keep things going good by saving on my C: drive with the main recordings, and then editing them, and saving edited files on J: drive before moving them to DVD later, all the while making sure to delete unused files, emptying trash and doing a defrag every time I do all of that. Defragging is very important if you plan to use your computer as a pvr... especially if you use it with a lot on a regular weekly or daily basis... but having a high end enough spec computer to match the software you plan to use is important too. Make sure you have what you need to do what you are trying to do.

Also, be sure to have the right software to do edits and stuff. TONS AND TONS of software is out there, both commercial and freeware, so test, test, and then test some more. What works for me best may not work for you, and both our choices in what works best is going to be different than what someone else uses.... but I will say if you have DVB World USB Device, the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method of using Nextorm software that comes with the software is your best bet to go with as a PVR. I went directly to DVB Dream as a software after posting something similar to this thread in here many, many months ago.... Do use the software that comes with your equipment, and test it as much as possible. If you go with some other options down the road and find they work better for some things for you, go with what works for what functionality that works best for you. Do try lots of things... just don't make the assumption like I did long ago that DVB Dream is best software for your uses on your computer based on posts in here without testing stuff out yourself.

Also don't assume that one software program can do it all. I use lots of different programs to different things... Counting nextorm, I usually use one program to record, one to edit, one or more to possibly reedit (sometimes several depending on if I want to record to dvd or to an video file that's just for computer use - main theory on editing in these boards is video redo is best since it doesn't reencode, which makes it faster and since it can pretty well convert , but take that advice with caution since other software sometimes work better depending on what you are trying to do... I've found winavi is great for downsizing mpgs if you save as mpgs and change your target size in options if your recording ends up being over 5 gigs and you are trying to record to a 4 gig dvd, which does occassionally happen if the satellite you are recording off of has high enough bitrates and stuff), another software or four to convert mpgs in to dvd's vob and ifos, etc. - (depending on what I want to do as far as bitrate, quality, target mb size, and several other factors go - so far converting mpg to dvd files I'm really liking DVD Styler, which is free, but have used other software and sometimes like what the others do better for some things since some other options might be a little faster or better for fancier options and stuff), and another software to record the isos in to dvd (I use Nero, but other free options might or might not work better for you?)...

There's lots and lots of software out there for each step in using your computer as a pvr... usually one software will be a better option for you because it usually has one or two functions that it does better than the rest... but you won't really know a lot about all of that until you test quite a bit on different things and try it for yourself and see what works best. I will say that using computers as pvr is a way better solution than just going after a ready made solution like a dvd recording machine or tivo type thing, but that's just my opinion...

Above all - remember, opinions are like arm pits - we all got them... sometimes they smell ok if we use d.o., sometimes they stink, and sometimes they smell very badly (especially after going to work out and then doing lots of yard work without showering)... opinions on what software to use given by people in here can sometimes be like listening to a town gossip, or sometimes can be like listening to a Preacher who is really teaching the Gospel... or sometimes can be like listening to a wacky tele-evangelist leading a cult like the one that was in Wako, Texas a few years back....
Anole
I think MasterMesh's suggestions are pretty well written.

In addition, I'd like to add that while I recommend DVBdream to try first, it won't support all devices.
Get something that will handle whatever card or USB box you have.

Much as I hate to suggest MyTheatre, it is in regular development, and does support nearly everything.
I've used the latter to record dozens of hours of programming.
And that was USB on a 1.5ghz Celeron laptop !

If you want to turn your recordings into DVDs, there are many ways.
Request info on that subject, if you desire it, because that's a whole 'nother book to digest.
Suffice it to say that I use VideoReDo for editing and cleanup, and DVD Labs Pro for authoring.
VideoReDo will release an extended editor with authoring features, later this summer.

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digiblur
I love two programs for DVB PC viewing. DVBDream for viewing feeds that don't move (non-wild feeds). TSReader for viewing 4:2:2 video and other wild feeds. Combined with a standard STB for blindscanning and TSReader for feed analyzing you can do some serious feed hunting.

TSReader lite is all you need if you just want to see what a stream contains, but if you want to watch the video or record it you'll need the full version. I use my TSReader just about everyday to view and record video.
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RIP dude. Always liked his music. He was 83


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5Arbm47IQ
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R.I.P.
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R.I.P.
Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
dfergie
R.I.P. …
Ramy
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Jimbo
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
No, I was actually referring to outside of the Top 8, but should have been Top 12 ...

I guess I should have looked at the bracket from last year first ...

I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
Ronnie-
I'm more thinking about them trying to expect a 15 to beat a 5 seed or there abouts .
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
AZ.
AZ.
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Yep, wonder why we rank the top 25 in 2 poles still? Do the ranking change much if they are unranked or have many loses? They sure do, any given day never take your opponent as a cake walk.....
Jimbo
I mean you get upsets all the time.

Just a couple of weeks ago. Unranked Florida knocked off number 7 texas. Unranked Auburn beat number 1 Georgia.

This week unranked Cincinnati beat number 8 texas Tech. Unranked UCF beat number 2 BYU.

No reason to think similar upsets wont happen in the playoffs where a low seed can upset a higher one.
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time ....however .
You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

They are trying to make this Basketball and its a far cry from the way that is played.

How long till they go to 32 teams ? Then they will say, well, the NFL is 32 teams, we can make more money that way .... except the NFL is 32 teams, that are a set number of teams and divisions, you don't have that in College ... oh but they will try.

They would have to choose what teams they would want in and thats it.
Hopefully that NEVER happens.

I can see the NCAA going away and the CFP taking that portion over and a Collective Bargaining agreement coming in the not to distant future.
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The problem with rankings and playoffs is that they are designed to hype the game and make money. Period.

The only reason that BYU and Texas Tech were upsets is that they were hyped up in the standings in the first place. I love watching BYU and Bear Bachmeier. They are a fun and talented team, but not nearly so strong, fast, big, and skilled as a true top ten team. Does anyone truly believe they could compete with the likes of Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana, Alabama, etc.? Yet, they were ranked above those teams.

Each year, there are 10 to 12 teams who truly could compete for the championship if it depended on winning more than one game in a playoff. Including teams like James Madison, Tulane, BYU, etc. in a playoff has nothing to do with determining a national champion. It's just about money.
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Ronnie-
Correct, you Do get upsets from time to time
Yes. As shown in a few posts now.


You Don't get teams UPSETTING teams for 5 weeks in a row.

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But that wasn't what your stated argument was though.


I mean if you drag it out, no team even a favorite is gonna win every game 20 weeks in a row.


With the parity in college football now, who knows who can beat anyone at any given time?

This season and last have shown it might not be the ones we think that might win it all that will win it all.
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
navychop
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
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Foxbat
Cough, cough. COVID vaccine implants.

:oldlaugh
That would be handy. Download the latest RNA snippets that can be updated over 5G and no more shots! You're a Genius!
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Meta Clickbait, clicking and watching the Video on Clickbait.
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FTA4PA
R.I.P.
dishstaller
My Mom was a huge McMillan & Wife fan.

RIP
dfergie
Mcmillan and wife was where I remember her from, R.I.P. ...
M
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Foxbat
Rest in Peace… I had forgotten she was Kate in "Kate and Allie", teamed with Jane Curtin.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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If Love Must Go - Dobie Gray
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Drift Away - Dobie Gray
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Throwing It All Away - Genesis
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All I Need is a Miracle - Mike + The Mechanics
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Sweet Miracle - Rush
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

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If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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T
Paranormal Files back in business:

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T
Two new Bonus View channels Added today:

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And two Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the heads up.
T
One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):

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One Removed:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.

Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
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Three new Bonus View channels today:

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
T
Four Bonus View channels removed today:

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Van
Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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TRG
2 egg burrito with bacon and a side of hashbrowns. Coffee.

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TRG
TRG
Breakfast Quesadillas. Grilled flour tortilla filled with scrambled eggs, hash browns, chopped green chile, cheddar & Jack cheese and bacon. Coffee.

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Bobby
Taco omelette. 3 eggs, taco meat from yesterday, diced green chilis, cheddar cheese, chopped red onion, avocado, black olives, chopped tomato, La Victoria Salsa Brava.

This one was really, really good!
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dfergie
Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
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Thought I was getting a Chorizo and egg burrito (marker had rubbed off)but was a roast beef/potato I made up before hunting this morning.
Btw every morning at camp I cooked my homemade Chorizo and scrambled eggs plus sausage side while my brother brought bacon. (they liked both the beef and pork versions)
I had a chorizo and egg burrito for you. With lots of green chile and cheese of course.
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