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Hi All, I got a Vip-722 Dish HD Rec./DVR about 3 weeks ago. Here in W. Palm Beach, FL Dish gets the local chs., But NOT in HD. I have a new Sony KDS-R60XBR2 HD set.
I followed the instructions to scan in the local chs. from my current roof antenna and no problem. They all turned into HD. The only problem I have is replacing the roof antenna with another one for the best signal & PQ. The roof antenna is 17 yrs. old and I boughtit when I had C-Band to pick up local chs.
I have been reading many posts, but I am somewhat confused about what antenna to buy. I read that Dish sells HD antennas to customers with HD receivers. The W. Palm Bch chs. are not real far away & FL is flat. All I would have to do is remove the old antenna from the pole, bolt on the new one, and point it in the right direction. Two chs. are slightly left of where the 3 UHF chs. are strongest. If I'm understanding the posts I think I might need an omni directional antenna.
Or should I call Dish & get a price on one of their's? I would appreciate all feedback. Thanks.
I followed the instructions to scan in the local chs. from my current roof antenna and no problem. They all turned into HD. The only problem I have is replacing the roof antenna with another one for the best signal & PQ. The roof antenna is 17 yrs. old and I boughtit when I had C-Band to pick up local chs.
I have been reading many posts, but I am somewhat confused about what antenna to buy. I read that Dish sells HD antennas to customers with HD receivers. The W. Palm Bch chs. are not real far away & FL is flat. All I would have to do is remove the old antenna from the pole, bolt on the new one, and point it in the right direction. Two chs. are slightly left of where the 3 UHF chs. are strongest. If I'm understanding the posts I think I might need an omni directional antenna.
Or should I call Dish & get a price on one of their's? I would appreciate all feedback. Thanks.
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M
And they had one to sell you, right?
Antennas really don't wear out, they may suffer if you have wind or ice damage, are corroded badly (as you may be in FL, although most are made of aluminum), or some other kind of PHYSICAL damage has been done on them. Analog antennas are IDENTICAL to HDTV antennas, the waves they pick up are the same wavelength and so the whole HDTV antenna thing is a major hoax by dealers and manufacturers. Unless the one you have is really in bad shape, stick with it if it used to work on analog for you.
Since you have some readings of ~95 and some in 60s, how about you move the antenna a bit toward the ones that are lowest and see if you can't raise them some without trashing the already high ones before you start laying out any $$$ for an amp.
If you cannot resolve the issue otherwise, get a GOOD amp, one like has already been mentioned. If you are going to use one, remember, if you wish to hook more than one TV up to an antenna using an amp, have to hook the thing up properly (pay very close attention to the manual.)
Let us know how it goes and Good Luck!
And they had one to sell you, right?
Antennas really don't wear out, they may suffer if you have wind or ice damage, are corroded badly (as you may be in FL, although most are made of aluminum), or some other kind of PHYSICAL damage has been done on them. Analog antennas are IDENTICAL to HDTV antennas, the waves they pick up are the same wavelength and so the whole HDTV antenna thing is a major hoax by dealers and manufacturers. Unless the one you have is really in bad shape, stick with it if it used to work on analog for you.Since you have some readings of ~95 and some in 60s, how about you move the antenna a bit toward the ones that are lowest and see if you can't raise them some without trashing the already high ones before you start laying out any $$$ for an amp.
If you cannot resolve the issue otherwise, get a GOOD amp, one like has already been mentioned. If you are going to use one, remember, if you wish to hook more than one TV up to an antenna using an amp, have to hook the thing up properly (pay very close attention to the manual.)
Let us know how it goes and Good Luck!
And they had one to sell you, right?
Since you have some readings of ~95 and some in 60s, how about you move the antenna a bit toward the ones that are lowest and see if you can't raise them some without trashing the already high ones before you start laying out any $$$ for an amp.
If you cannot resolve the issue otherwise, get a GOOD amp, one like has already been mentioned. If you are going to use one, remember, if you wish to hook more than one TV up to an antenna using an amp, have to hook the thing up properly (pay very close attention to the manual.)
Let us know how it goes and Good Luck!
Mike, Yes, I'm hip to all the BS about HD antenns, etc. Are you saying you'd rather amp an old ant. up vs. buying a reasonably priced new one? Are you saying that my old ant. pulls in chs. as good as a brand new one? I always thought that wasnot the case. My ant. has been through 2 hurricanes and other than missing 1 VHF element it is intact.
BTW, I am only hooking up my main TV & my computer to the antenna. What amp would you recommend and where to buy it @ what price? Thanks, Dan
M
I would try the old antenna alone before I would do ANYTHING else. By re-aiming it, you very well may be able to use it with no other help. Some of the UGLIEST antennas I have ever seen work just fine, have helped friends with theirs that have been neglected for 20+ years as the people went to cable then and are now back with HDTV to antenna.
Looks do NOT matter when it comes to antennas, and as long as the station you are wanting to watch was not served by that missing element, it was useless anyhow. (You could break all the unused elements off an antenna if you wished and as long as they were clean breaks, should cause no problems, in my experience.) 
A shiny new antenna will most likely not be a bit better that what you already have, IMO, if it worked with analog, should be just fine with HDTV.
If re-aiming the antenna doesn't do what you wish, then I would personally buy a Channelmaster 7777. Solidsignal.com has it for 53.99 and
WarrenElectronics.com has it for 57.93. Those are 2 sites I have seen recommended a lot on this forum.
Hooking to both a HDTV AND a computer counts as TWO TVs. Remember, each splitter in line degrades the signal, so make sure that you have them hooked up only as you need them, although I am not saying not leave them connected all the time. Work it out 1st with the TV and then give the computer a try as well, too.
Good Luck!
I would try the old antenna alone before I would do ANYTHING else. By re-aiming it, you very well may be able to use it with no other help. Some of the UGLIEST antennas I have ever seen work just fine, have helped friends with theirs that have been neglected for 20+ years as the people went to cable then and are now back with HDTV to antenna.
Looks do NOT matter when it comes to antennas, and as long as the station you are wanting to watch was not served by that missing element, it was useless anyhow. (You could break all the unused elements off an antenna if you wished and as long as they were clean breaks, should cause no problems, in my experience.) A shiny new antenna will most likely not be a bit better that what you already have, IMO, if it worked with analog, should be just fine with HDTV.
If re-aiming the antenna doesn't do what you wish, then I would personally buy a Channelmaster 7777. Solidsignal.com has it for 53.99 and
WarrenElectronics.com has it for 57.93. Those are 2 sites I have seen recommended a lot on this forum.
Hooking to both a HDTV AND a computer counts as TWO TVs. Remember, each splitter in line degrades the signal, so make sure that you have them hooked up only as you need them, although I am not saying not leave them connected all the time. Work it out 1st with the TV and then give the computer a try as well, too.
Good Luck!
I would try the old antenna alone before I would do ANYTHING else. By re-aiming it, you very well may be able to use it with no other help. Some of the UGLIEST antennas I have ever seen work just fine, have helped friends with theirs that have been neglected for 20+ years as the people went to cable then and are now back with HDTV to antenna.
A shiny new antenna will most likely not be a bit better that what you already have, IMO, if it worked with analog, should be just fine with HDTV.
If re-aiming the antenna doesn't do what you wish, then I would personally buy a Channelmaster 7777. Solidsignal.com has it for 53.99 and
WarrenElectronics.com has it for 57.93. Those are 2 sites I have seen recommended a lot on this forum.
Hooking to both a HDTV AND a computer counts as TWO TVs. Remember, each splitter in line degrades the signal, so make sure that you have them hooked up only as you need them, although I am not saying not leave them connected all the time. Work it out 1st with the TV and then give the computer a try as well, too.
Good Luck!
OK, I had a good look at the ant. As it turns out the original ant. has VHF & UHF, BUT the UHF elements are fixed with the VHF eles. I forgot that I mounted a UHF ant. on the pole below the VHF ant. I have 2 coax. runs going into a 2 way slitter- (Don't recall how or when) IE: 2 antennas are going into the outputs of a splitter and the input side has a piece of coax going into the attic where the main cable feeds are. All I can think of is I had no adaptor that takes 2 ant. inputs with 1 out to the main line.
No, I'm not an idiot- I don't recall ever needing to connect 2 antennas on a pole to 1 coax in a house. Well, I went over all the connections & played with both antennas trying to point them as best as possible.
I have NO idea what the correct connector part is I need to do the proper hookup from the 2 ant. Do you know what it's called? I was going into town tomorrow-probably by a R-Shack.
OK, It's 5 PM and all 5 locals come in. One VHF & 1 UHF ch. have 95 sigs. The other VHF & 2 UHF's are in the low-mid 70's. Makes me wonder if an amp will do the trick. One of my favorites is @ 346 degrees while the others I watch are @ 179, 171, and 345.
If most signals are in the 70's my thoughts would lean towards amp, but I am no expert. I also hooked the main cable in line to the main TV only- no computer to share the line. Let me know your thoughts based on what I have told you. Thanks.
M
Bingo!
The splitter you have combining the 2 antenna outputs is also called a diplexer (sp?) as they are the same thing. The way you have them hooked up was / is just fine. They are often used to combine the input from a UHF and a VHF antenna to send the signal down one signal line to a TV. The way you have them hooked up is just fine and very workable, in fact the so called combo UHF/VHF antennas have one built-in.
Now that you have some pretty decent signals coming in and have worked the antenna about all you can, its time for plan #b.
I looked at WarrenElectronics.com and they have a Channelmaster Model 3039 for ~ $35, which sounds like it will do what you need. Take a look at it and as have read good reports on the ChannelMasters and WineGuards.
Just took a look at the Radio Shack web-site and it appears they have one that may very well work (no telling who makes it, though), per the reviews.
Its their: In-Line Signal Amplifier - Model: 15-1170 | Catalog #: 15-1170 and is $40, and best part is, if it doesn't work for you, you can take it back soon! I live in a metro of ~ 2 million and have to order most TV supplies though as it seems the places that sold the stuff all vanished with the advent of cable and satellite, but they are now starting to come back. You can check some local places to see if you can find what you need, but otherwise, just make sure you can return parts if they won't work for you. (Have heard too many tales on AVSForums of people being stuck with parts that they cannot use. )
Sounds like you are almost there!
Good Luck!
-Mike
Bingo!
The splitter you have combining the 2 antenna outputs is also called a diplexer (sp?) as they are the same thing. The way you have them hooked up was / is just fine. They are often used to combine the input from a UHF and a VHF antenna to send the signal down one signal line to a TV. The way you have them hooked up is just fine and very workable, in fact the so called combo UHF/VHF antennas have one built-in.
Now that you have some pretty decent signals coming in and have worked the antenna about all you can, its time for plan #b.
I looked at WarrenElectronics.com and they have a Channelmaster Model 3039 for ~ $35, which sounds like it will do what you need. Take a look at it and as have read good reports on the ChannelMasters and WineGuards.
Just took a look at the Radio Shack web-site and it appears they have one that may very well work (no telling who makes it, though), per the reviews.
Its their: In-Line Signal Amplifier - Model: 15-1170 | Catalog #: 15-1170 and is $40, and best part is, if it doesn't work for you, you can take it back soon!
I live in a metro of ~ 2 million and have to order most TV supplies though as it seems the places that sold the stuff all vanished with the advent of cable and satellite, but they are now starting to come back. You can check some local places to see if you can find what you need, but otherwise, just make sure you can return parts if they won't work for you. (Have heard too many tales on AVSForums of people being stuck with parts that they cannot use. )Sounds like you are almost there!
Good Luck!
-Mike
Bingo!
The splitter you have combining the 2 antenna outputs is also called a diplexer (sp?) as they are the same thing. The way you have them hooked up was / is just fine. They are often used to combine the input from a UHF and a VHF antenna to send the signal down one signal line to a TV. The way you have them hooked up is just fine and very workable, in fact the so called combo UHF/VHF antennas have one built-in.
Now that you have some pretty decent signals coming in and have worked the antenna about all you can, its time for plan #b.
I looked at WarrenElectronics.com and they have a Channelmaster Model 3039 for ~ $35, which sounds like it will do what you need. Take a look at it and as have read good reports on the ChannelMasters and WineGuards.
Just took a look at the Radio Shack web-site and it appears they have one that may very well work (no telling who makes it, though), per the reviews.
Its their: In-Line Signal Amplifier - Model: 15-1170 | Catalog #: 15-1170 and is $40, and best part is, if it doesn't work for you, you can take it back soon!
Sounds like you are almost there!
Good Luck!
-Mike
Hi, I looked @ both amps. The Shack amp puts out up to 10DB's & the C-Master puts out 13DB. Way back in 1987-89 I lived in CT. I had a large roof ant. to pull in 1 station that was 45 miles away. I bought an inline amp exactly like the current Shack amp. The amp made that weak ch. comein much better. It was analog of course. About once a year the piece on the roof would quit, but I didn't care as I wanted that ch. for several programs.
Next- I read some reviews from guys who bought this amp and they said something about not using a splitter before the line amp. In my case I use the splitter to combine the 2 ant. together to send just 1 cable down to main house cable in.
I didn't see anything on Warren's site regarding returns. I know the Shack has a good return pol. Last night I watched Prison Break on Fox. I made sure I had the ant. turned @ Fox's sig. to get the best pic. And, it was superb with a 100 sig. HD TV is amazing if you have a strong sig.
This morning I checked the sig. strength on the 5 local chs. I care about. VHF: 1 ch. @ 98, the other @ 74. UHF: ch. 25-(ABC) @ 100, ch. 29- (Fox) @ 100, ch. 34- (ind.) @ 68. These are the only chs. I care about @ this time.
Question: If I amp them up will the really strong chs. start ghosting or double imaging with the signal boosted up? I'd hate to buy an amp & find out it's NG for the strong chs.
What do you think?
M
If you use a preamp from anyone, be sure you do not use a splitter for TV sets before the power in-line module. The combiner that you are using will be just fine, as you are combining with it, not splitting.
What you really have is:
vhf antenna \\
uhf antenna // combiner ---> common antenna cable ---> TV set
When you add a preamp to the system, be sure you add it after the combiner, but before the TV set (or a splitter add in-line before the TV set.)
As for the ghosting, etc. that is the awesome thing about digital TV, you don't have to worry about that like you do with analog. The things you DO have to worry about are artifacting and pixelation, both of which are caused by too weak a signal.
With the readings you are getting, you can use a weaker preamp than someone who is not getting as strong a signal would need. The reason I would go for a weaker one is that a much stronger one could introduce a front end overload to your set and could be interesting, although most sets can deal with it OK.
Whoops, just looked at RS again and that amp only has a 90 day warranty on it, so may just get another one from another source. DAYUM! As far as Warren goes, they are highly recommended on this forum and @ AVSForums, so just know that I would put them at head of the list compared to buying blind, but would recommend calling and asking about returns, warranties, etc. Some people have found these amps at Lowe's and HDepots near them, but none in my metro area carried parts when I needed them. You may wish to check them out as well, sometimes it makes me feel better to pay more and get it locally so I can return it easier if it doesn't work out, but then that is just me.
Good Luck!
-Mike
If you use a preamp from anyone, be sure you do not use a splitter for TV sets before the power in-line module. The combiner that you are using will be just fine, as you are combining with it, not splitting.
What you really have is:
vhf antenna \\
uhf antenna // combiner ---> common antenna cable ---> TV set
When you add a preamp to the system, be sure you add it after the combiner, but before the TV set (or a splitter add in-line before the TV set.)
As for the ghosting, etc. that is the awesome thing about digital TV, you don't have to worry about that like you do with analog. The things you DO have to worry about are artifacting and pixelation, both of which are caused by too weak a signal.
With the readings you are getting, you can use a weaker preamp than someone who is not getting as strong a signal would need. The reason I would go for a weaker one is that a much stronger one could introduce a front end overload to your set and could be interesting, although most sets can deal with it OK.
Whoops, just looked at RS again and that amp only has a 90 day warranty on it, so may just get another one from another source. DAYUM! As far as Warren goes, they are highly recommended on this forum and @ AVSForums, so just know that I would put them at head of the list compared to buying blind, but would recommend calling and asking about returns, warranties, etc. Some people have found these amps at Lowe's and HDepots near them, but none in my metro area carried parts when I needed them. You may wish to check them out as well, sometimes it makes me feel better to pay more and get it locally so I can return it easier if it doesn't work out, but then that is just me.
Good Luck!
-Mike
If you use a preamp from anyone, be sure you do not use a splitter for TV sets before the power in-line module. The combiner that you are using will be just fine, as you are combining with it, not splitting.
What you really have is:
vhf antenna \\
uhf antenna // combiner ---> common antenna cable ---> TV set
When you add a preamp to the system, be sure you add it after the combiner, but before the TV set (or a splitter add in-line before the TV set.)
As for the ghosting, etc. that is the awesome thing about digital TV, you don't have to worry about that like you do with analog. The things you DO have to worry about are artifacting and pixelation, both of which are caused by too weak a signal.
With the readings you are getting, you can use a weaker preamp than someone who is not getting as strong a signal would need. The reason I would go for a weaker one is that a much stronger one could introduce a front end overload to your set and could be interesting, although most sets can deal with it OK.
Whoops, just looked at RS again and that amp only has a 90 day warranty on it, so may just get another one from another source. DAYUM! As far as Warren goes, they are highly recommended on this forum and @ AVSForums, so just know that I would put them at head of the list compared to buying blind, but would recommend calling and asking about returns, warranties, etc. Some people have found these amps at Lowe's and HDepots near them, but none in my metro area carried parts when I needed them. You may wish to check them out as well, sometimes it makes me feel better to pay more and get it locally so I can return it easier if it doesn't work out, but then that is just me.
Good Luck!
-Mike
Hi Mike, I picked up the Shack amp yesterday. It only has a max. output of 10 DB so I feel good about that. The Mgr. tried to talk me into a 30 DB gain amp, but I think that would be overkill in this situation. Of course I can always bring this amp back if it does not meet expectations. This is the same line amp I had 20 yrs. ago in CT. It had to be replaced annually, but it worked great. The Shack sells a 2 yr. warranty for $10 & I will go back & buy it if the amp works out. I installed two 25' cables the other day when I took the ant. & pole down for maint. and height adj. on the UHF ant. Now I can reach the UHF ant. w/out going on the roof. My pole goes into the ground & clamps to the house. I simply loosen the 4 bracket nuts and I can turn the whole thing for fine tuning.
I used the longer cables as they are from cable with nice ends. Today I will shorten them, hook up to the combiner, and then to the main attic cable. The only thing I don't like is the builder used RG-59 cables in the house & I have no access to where the TV is to run an RG-6 cable. After I do this I'll recheck the sig. on all the dig. chs. At that point if I'm still getting 2 weaker sigs. I will install the line amp and recheck the new sig. readings.
I'll let you know what the sigs. are when I'm done.
Dan
M
Dan,
You are going the same road as I would have. That 10db RS amp ought to work just fine, and getting the extended warranty sounds like a winner to me. Best part is that you can get it repalced locally, if need be.
As to the RG-59, unless you have LONG runs of it, that should not be a problem, either. Although most RG-6 is better for most applications, its not THAT much better that I would tear open walls or something to use it.
Hopefully, you have got things in hand now and as soon as you get a chance to put it all together, I feel very sure your setup will work just fine for you.
Was looking at my setup yesterday and am going to have to add 2 more sets to my antenna in near future for HDTVs I am putting in the home. I picked up a preamp that will feed up to 4 sets (since will only be using 3, will terminate the 4th feed), each at 8 db gain. That should be more than ample to make up for the 3.5 db loss of signal associated with each splitter and the additional cables I will be adding into the circuits. After I add the RG-6 to the circuits, insert the preamp into the circuit, all the locations should be just fine, no reason to get a 500db gain preamp.
Let me know how you fare!
-Mike
Dan,
You are going the same road as I would have. That 10db RS amp ought to work just fine, and getting the extended warranty sounds like a winner to me. Best part is that you can get it repalced locally, if need be.
As to the RG-59, unless you have LONG runs of it, that should not be a problem, either. Although most RG-6 is better for most applications, its not THAT much better that I would tear open walls or something to use it.
Hopefully, you have got things in hand now and as soon as you get a chance to put it all together, I feel very sure your setup will work just fine for you.
Was looking at my setup yesterday and am going to have to add 2 more sets to my antenna in near future for HDTVs I am putting in the home. I picked up a preamp that will feed up to 4 sets (since will only be using 3, will terminate the 4th feed), each at 8 db gain. That should be more than ample to make up for the 3.5 db loss of signal associated with each splitter and the additional cables I will be adding into the circuits. After I add the RG-6 to the circuits, insert the preamp into the circuit, all the locations should be just fine, no reason to get a 500db gain preamp.
Let me know how you fare!
-Mike
M
Sounds pretty good to me. My TV's receiver and HR-20 will lock onto signals in that range (70+ seems to work for me), so it sounds like you are getting there. It looks (per antennaweb.org) that 34 and 25 are in same general area and at same ~ distance, so it looks like you are almost there. Since 12 and 29 are close to each other, you will want to tweak the antenna's direction if 34 comes in @ ~100 like 25 is to improve their signals. This is the fine tuning stage, a place where you have a good compass and a LOT of patience or drop a chunk of change on a signal strength meter. I like the challenge more of fine tuning by hand, although I do have to admit that, at times, I have been tempted to buy a meter. hehehehe
Good Luck!
-Mike
Sounds pretty good to me. My TV's receiver and HR-20 will lock onto signals in that range (70+ seems to work for me), so it sounds like you are getting there. It looks (per antennaweb.org) that 34 and 25 are in same general area and at same ~ distance, so it looks like you are almost there. Since 12 and 29 are close to each other, you will want to tweak the antenna's direction if 34 comes in @ ~100 like 25 is to improve their signals. This is the fine tuning stage, a place where you have a good compass and a LOT of patience or drop a chunk of change on a signal strength meter.
I like the challenge more of fine tuning by hand, although I do have to admit that, at times, I have been tempted to buy a meter. heheheheGood Luck!
-Mike
Sounds pretty good to me. My TV's receiver and HR-20 will lock onto signals in that range (70+ seems to work for me), so it sounds like you are getting there. It looks (per antennaweb.org) that 34 and 25 are in same general area and at same ~ distance, so it looks like you are almost there. Since 12 and 29 are close to each other, you will want to tweak the antenna's direction if 34 comes in @ ~100 like 25 is to improve their signals. This is the fine tuning stage, a place where you have a good compass and a LOT of patience or drop a chunk of change on a signal strength meter.
Good Luck!
-Mike
Mike, I was able to finally get all 5 locals tuned in. Today's signals: 5- NBC- 88, 12-CBS- 88, 25-ABC- 100, 29- Fox- 78, and 34- The new CW- 77. It's worth noting that all 5 chs. are in HD & have exc. PQ. There's no doubt in my mind that the amp helps to keep the sig. steady. I did rotate my UHF ant. to around 246 degrees & Fox & CW came in strong. 25 was never aproblem @ 100 and 5 & 12 were always strong. The BEST part is all 5 have extremely good PQ that I didn't expect. You have shown me that old antennas are not necessarily NG.
I can't wait until tomorrow night to watch the Premier ep. of Prison Break in HD off of my ant. I am very pleased @ this time! Thanks again for your feedback. Dan
M
Congrats
Glad you got things working! OTA HDTV is much better than anything you get over cable, satellite, IPTV, et.al. AND you can get all the sub-channels, to boot!
Now you can scan the OTA questions like I do and try to help people who are thinking of trashing their antennas as they have been told by a dealer that will cure their ills, when in fact, old antennas work just as well as new ones, in most cases. Its not that hard, but when you haven't been through it yourself, it seems like a formidable task to get excellent PQ, but its not really all that difficult, just kind of frustrating, at times.
Glad you are getting to see your shows now and look for things to improve even more. As Feb 2009 approaches, the digital OTA stations are fine tuning their setups and some will be going full-power, improving things even more (they are at a lesser power now, due to technical problems, as a couple here are.)
-Mike
Glad you got things working! OTA HDTV is much better than anything you get over cable, satellite, IPTV, et.al. AND you can get all the sub-channels, to boot!
Now you can scan the OTA questions like I do and try to help people who are thinking of trashing their antennas as they have been told by a dealer that will cure their ills, when in fact, old antennas work just as well as new ones, in most cases.
Its not that hard, but when you haven't been through it yourself, it seems like a formidable task to get excellent PQ, but its not really all that difficult, just kind of frustrating, at times. Glad you are getting to see your shows now and look for things to improve even more. As Feb 2009 approaches, the digital OTA stations are fine tuning their setups and some will be going full-power, improving things even more (they are at a lesser power now, due to technical problems, as a couple here are.)
-Mike
Glad you got things working! OTA HDTV is much better than anything you get over cable, satellite, IPTV, et.al. AND you can get all the sub-channels, to boot!
Now you can scan the OTA questions like I do and try to help people who are thinking of trashing their antennas as they have been told by a dealer that will cure their ills, when in fact, old antennas work just as well as new ones, in most cases.
Glad you are getting to see your shows now and look for things to improve even more. As Feb 2009 approaches, the digital OTA stations are fine tuning their setups and some will be going full-power, improving things even more (they are at a lesser power now, due to technical problems, as a couple here are.)
-Mike
Hi, I am pretty sure that the "Shack" amp helped the weaker chs. by almost 10 DB's- (Its rating) Ch. 34- CW was having all kinds of trouble with their dig. feed until yesterday morning. I must say that I never thought I'd see the day when that crummy station would ever get a decent pic. Their analog sig. bites.
I don't know if you have sat. TV or cable, but for what it's worth I have a lease with Dish and have a new VIP-722 HD/DVR. It's a super piece of equip., stores 350 hrs. of SD programming, and 50 hrs. of HD prog. I plugged my ant. directly into it's cable post and it scanned the chs. & turned them into HD. I highly recommend that Rec./DVR to anyone who doesn't have cable.
Talk to you again, Dan
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Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
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Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
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Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8
Understanding the TPN Map
Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Patrick Stewart, ‘Star Trek’ Captain and ‘X-Men’ Superhero, Dies at 86
He’s forever known for playing Jean-Luc Picard and Charles Xavier, whom he “admired for their morality, for their kindness, for their sensitivity, for their compassion.”
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Last of the Dogmen is my favorite of hers.
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Good...simple humor. Enjoy
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJy0WnejlF4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJy0WnejlF4
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It states the average amount they are under water is OVER $7,000. 
Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
www.zerohedge.com
Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.
Nearly 3 In 10 New-Car Trade-Ins Are Underwater, Edmunds Finds<!-- --> | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it.
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched.When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it.
OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!
Aww- nevermind.
Aww- nevermind.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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when was the last time they innovated something
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.when was the last time they innovated something
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Starting a thread klang !
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
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