see gentleman your right only a few people, not the recever,because only a few people own/lease the vip222, let me tell you guy my setup i have vip622 with no problems except for lnb drift on 61.5 only on that recever all other rec vip222/625 report good after.the lnb drift is a way to get a service call for 49.00 or a jerk off tech to come out and mess with dish algment or your lnb to cause more problems.its just funny on other rec there is no lnb drift why is that because, i say it again softwear is the biggest problem dish has had in the past and in the futher, 625 with one issue when it goes into sleep mode when turn on again it go too looking for sats that started when they updated the software ver but everything works great after it starts up. now kind of dishes i use, i have three very large dishes all with dp duals on them and dpp44 switch my signal on 119/110 /61.5 are well over 100% all the time even when it rain hard real hard,so no rain fade here and my vip222 has all the same problems you all have. i live in south fla,but the dishes are an eye sore,but who cares better signal all the time.ps to everyone that owns a vip 622/722/222 some of the software is good but most of the time it sucks ass,there are some smart people here that can write software better then dishes crew of jerkoffs, that is really the only problems i have with dish